OME Rear and Daystar.

STINGN · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:17 pm

Has anyone added the OME HD Coils to the back with the Daystar spacer pucks in the back yet? Reason why I ask is because I don't want to purchase the upper iso, and I already own the daystar pucks. I also have a sub, gear bag, hi-lift and a Moab on as my spare so the rear is fairly heavy, will the daystar pucks make it too tall for the ball joint in the rear control arm? and will it cause my frankenlift to have a rake to it, right now it is 1 inch taller in the front...Mudd, i'm hoping you chime in on this

tommudd · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:25 pm

what are you sitting at currently from the middle of the wheel to bottom of the flare. we'll try and judge from there.
I have two extra "custom" spacers on top currently plus I recently installed new springs. I have CO2 tank, tools, Kilby etc so a little bit of weight as well.

You just installed those springs a few months back correct? May have togo to the 4 inch JBA springs. Towstrap replaced his with those due to his extra weight etc.

oddball · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:30 pm

tommudd wrote:

May have togo to the 4 inch JBA springs.

Steve, I thought this is what you were going to do - and recommended I do the same.

I'm tuned into this topic (insert popcorn smiley here).

tommudd · **Posted:** Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:14 am

The main problem is the fact that the OME Heavy Duty springs are still not strong enough if you haul a lot of tools/ amps/speakers, etc.
I'm still trying to find someone to build a set of springs to my specs with out paying 425/450 a pair, which I was quoted at another place the other day
The one problem I have with the JBA 4 inch springs is that although they will give you the lift we want and need when hauling a load of "stuff" you are compressing the springs down more than what would be normal so it may make them start stacking fairly quickly Only time will tell on them.

Just thinking out loud here so ...sorry

STINGN · **Posted:** Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:16 am

I will get the measurements tomorrow morning from all 4 corners...and yes, they are about 2 months old now, the front was in about 3 weeks ahead of time...its that darn Moab that is SOOO HEAVY with the MTR on it and when I take the spare off I gain a visual of an inch, but want to keep that look with the spare on it. I was considering the JBA 4", but if they are soft I might be in trouble, I was thinking about the daystar stuff, but it might be too tall. I think I recall that someone with a blue KJ on here with an ARB and Rock Lizard rear bumper had the daystar in the rear.

daspes · **Posted:** Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:04 am

I've been running OME HD's with Daystar pucks for nearly a year now I guess. To much weight in the back with my trail tools and CO2 and the springs were just sagging to much. with the two 1/2" All J's spacers I still had no travel in the rear. To date, no issues and my rear sits 1/2" higher than my Frankenlift front with 3 rings under the clevis fork.

liquidxit2 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:38 pm

So what are the current vendor heaviest duty spring out now? I constantly have tons of stuff in my jeep and in the summer and winter it gets worse.

tommudd · **Posted:** Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:05 pm

Most all spring rates for the rear are pretty much the same around 200 lb give or take

STINGN · **Posted:** Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:35 pm

here are my measurements

Front

L: 22.8"
R: 22.9"

Rear

L: 21.1
R:21.1

(I'm thinking I should add the daystar spacers)

tommudd · **Posted:** Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:50 pm

Steve if you want to wait a few days we are installing a set of the 4inch JBA springs on Chris' KJ (03CDKJ) so we can get you some measurements from his along with how he thinks it is.

Of course you can always throw the Daystars in and take them out real easy so..... :wink:

side note:
mine with all my junk in the rear, stock bottom isolator and three :shock:

top ones is at 23 inches

oh and I have a 245-75-16 MTR hanging off the rear yet as well! Got to remedy that soon! Keep forgetting :wink:

STINGN · **Posted:** Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:23 pm

tommudd wrote:

Steve if you want to wait a few days we are installing a set of the 4inch JBA springs on Chris' KJ (03CDKJ) so we can get you some measurements from his along with how he thinks it is.

Of course you can always throw the Daystars in and take them out real easy so..... :wink:

side note:
mine with all my junk in the rear, stock bottom isolator and three :shock:

top ones is at 23 inches

oh and I have a 245-75-16 MTR hanging off the rear yet as well! Got to remedy that soon! Keep forgetting :wink:

Yea, I just want to sit at about the same height on all 4's, it looks stupid from a distance to notice the front end is high up

tommudd · **Posted:** Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:42 pm

do you have any extra isolators in now? If not that will take care of the problem for you

STINGN · **Posted:** Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:56 pm

tommudd wrote:

do you have any extra isolators in now? If not that will take care of the problem for you

nope, how much will i gain if i do?

tommudd · **Posted:** Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:03 pm

with one about an inch I would throw two in. with your front measurments . Like I said I am at 23 and a hair inches with two extras

FreedomKJ · **Posted:** Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:39 pm

Have you thought about putting in helper air springs?

STINGN · **Posted:** Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:37 am

FreedomKJ wrote:

Have you thought about putting in helper air springs?

I had a Range Rover...not my favorite thing, they take a while to fill up in the cold and they dry rot over time :/

liquidxit2 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:11 pm

tommudd wrote:

Most all spring rates for the rear are pretty much the same around 200 lb give or take

Hmm. I am worried about hearing all over that 30k is the time where the springs wear pout and Im at 37k and haul alot of stuff all the time. For the winter Im carrying tons of ski equipment, luggage, and people. Summer time I haul bikes, camping gear, and other active stuff. So with the maxing of my tongue weight and load capacity plus the safari rack thats going on pretty soon Im pretty worried. Thanks for your help and sorry for jacking the thread.

tommudd · **Posted:** Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:19 pm

liquidxit2 wrote:

tommudd wrote:

Most all spring rates for the rear are pretty much the same around 200 lb give or take

Hmm. I am worried about hearing all over that 30k is the time where the springs wear pout and Im at 37k and haul alot of stuff all the time. For the winter Im carrying tons of ski equipment, luggage, and people. Summer time I haul bikes, camping gear, and other active stuff. So with the maxing of my tongue weight and load capacity plus the safari rack thats going on pretty soon Im pretty worried. Thanks for your help and sorry for jacking the thread.

Yes stockers will sag quick , my rear OME springs lasted about 85000/90000 before they started to sag down, just added some isolators until I replaced them at 100,000 ( but not bad for lifted springs) :wink:

oddball · **Posted:** Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:32 pm

Okay so let me see if I got this right - With (say) a frankenlift, I should also install two iso's (per rear side) at the time of lift install?

ekj · **Joined:** Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:55 pm **Posts:** 100

How much weight are you, gents, hauling that is causing these problems?

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