I have a custom U-joint shaft. If balanced it should be fine. Lots of people are running them now. I notice high RPM vibes on the freeway but it's fine - just a bit louder inside than before.
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| Author: | ZERO6 [ Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Front propeller shaft |
Well I have to change the front propeller shaft because it is making a clicking noise in 4x4 mode. Had it at the stealership and they also agreed that it needed to be changed. Funny thing though, this is not my first nor last Jeep, I can't believe that the shaft is not serviceable. Any ways, the old shaft that I have, I'll see what I can do with it at work, like make a serviceable one. Maybe using the same U-joints as the rear end to make it easier for the next person, if I sell it.. Will have pictures of the R&R. |
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| Author: | FreedomKJ [ Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Front propeller shaft |
Using U-joints on the front shaft of a KJ gives a lot of vibration. It's really best to stick with CVs on the front. |
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| Author: | ZERO6 [ Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Front propeller shaft |
Wasatch15 messaged me about a aftermarket shaft.. by Tom Wood's. May go with that, see how much first. This stuff up here in Canada is pricey, even with a supplier discount! |
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| Author: | phxtoad [ Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Front propeller shaft |
I have a custom U-joint shaft. If balanced it should be fine. Lots of people are running them now. I notice high RPM vibes on the freeway but it's fine - just a bit louder inside than before.
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| Author: | Diggerfreek [ Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Front propeller shaft |
TBH, I would also stick with the OEM style shaft. After seeing a u joint style one blow up at the yoke, I know I will be sticking with a CV style. Now, once I'm able to take a look again at the cause of failure, I might change my mind on the U joint style DS |
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| Author: | tommudd [ Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Front propeller shaft |
My first one lasted about 130,000 miles and not knowing what all I may run into and after a ton of reading went back to a stock one . For about 200 bucks way cheaper and I know its going to work, I don't like any types of vibrations except when I drop the quarters in the bed |
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| Author: | WestyKJ [ Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Front propeller shaft |
I have a clicking noise in 4 wheel drive as well. It comes and goes though. In either 4 Hi or 4 Lo, only under load, I get a clicking that increases in speed as the vehicle does. As soon as I let off the gas, it stops. No noise in 2 wheel drive. Is this the same problem, or what other ideas does everyone have. Also, I just changed the front lift from Skyjacker coils to a Frankenlift. It is sitting about an inch taller than before. Also just changed the passsenger side CV with a remaned unit. Could either of these changes be causing the clicking? Thanks guys. |
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| Author: | Diggerfreek [ Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Front propeller shaft |
WestyKJ wrote: I have a clicking noise in 4 wheel drive as well. It comes and goes though. In either 4 Hi or 4 Lo, only under load, I get a clicking that increases in speed as the vehicle does. As soon as I let off the gas, it stops. No noise in 2 wheel drive. Is this the same problem, or what other ideas does everyone have. Also, I just changed the front lift from Skyjacker coils to a Frankenlift. It is sitting about an inch taller than before. Also just changed the passsenger side CV with a remaned unit. Could either of these changes be causing the clicking? Thanks guys. Most likely since the front prop shaft is not under load unless it is in 4wd and you are in throttle |
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| Author: | FreedomKJ [ Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Front propeller shaft |
WestyKJ wrote: I have a clicking noise in 4 wheel drive as well. It comes and goes though. In either 4 Hi or 4 Lo, only under load, I get a clicking that increases in speed as the vehicle does. As soon as I let off the gas, it stops. No noise in 2 wheel drive. Is this the same problem, or what other ideas does everyone have. Also, I just changed the front lift from Skyjacker coils to a Frankenlift. It is sitting about an inch taller than before. Also just changed the passsenger side CV with a remaned unit. Could either of these changes be causing the clicking? Thanks guys. Funny, I was about to comment on the same thing. After doing a clevis lift (on top of my 70k-miles-and-not-a-problem Frankenlift) I noticed clicking in 4wd under load, but not while coasting. I guess I should take a look at the shaft while I have it in the shop this weekend replacing my radiator and p/s pump. |
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| Author: | ZERO6 [ Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Front propeller shaft |
Yup, swapping it out Sunday along with a wheel bearing and since I'm doing that, will be checking the CV's. Going to remake one for later using the old one as a reference, so that I don't have to wait again for a new one, this will be rebuild-able! |
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| Author: | ZERO6 [ Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Front propeller shaft |
All right got my parts now, and I thank my buddy because this is what it would have cost at the stealership; front propeller shaft- list/$1,118.26+tax my price at stealership/$ 873.35+tax & labor+tax ( CND funds ) my buddy's price/ $ 650.00+tax -------------------------------------------------- wheel bearing list/ $342.71+tax stealership / $237.50+tax & labor+tax ( CND funds ) buddy's price / $194.30+tax Total my cost out the door $954.06 Oh and the use of his shop/tools, and the use of who ever is working that day I show up/ $ Zero dollars! So ah goes to show you how much mark up there is on this stuff, ya some of you might get it cheaper than me, and ya you have buddies too, and at least I saved on labor, which I believe is about $87.00/hour depending on where you go... |
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| Author: | FreedomKJ [ Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Front propeller shaft |
Good lord, $1100 for a driveshaft? Does anyone know of an aftermarket manufacturer that can actually build a true CV driveshaft? |
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| Author: | ZERO6 [ Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Front propeller shaft |
I was told about this company Tom Woods, that makes them. I called, and yet to receive a call back.. Autorock.com had one for about $348.00 delivered. But that did not include exchange, duty and/or brokerage fees, ect... |
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| Author: | ridenby [ Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Front propeller shaft |
You might try this fellow out, Automotive Parts Unlimited, LLC 800-270-5224 or ericautopart@aol.com Your source for drive shafts, bearings, axles, etc Ask for Eric, I think front driveshafts are $185, He says he can get intermediate shafts also for $62 ,that is what I ordered waiting to see how that goes. |
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| Author: | InCommando [ Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Front propeller shaft |
My under warranty driveshaft repair would have been about $650 bucks had I paid the dealer to do it.  I am betting the shaft is a spicer part, an anyone who deals spicer should be able to get it and at a much better price. Just like the front gear sets. |
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| Author: | ZERO6 [ Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Front propeller shaft |
ridenby wrote: You might try this fellow out, Automotive Parts Unlimited, LLC 800-270-5224 or ericautopart@aol.com Your source for drive shafts, bearings, axles, etc Ask for Eric, I think front driveshafts are $185, He says he can get intermediate shafts also for $62 ,that is what I ordered waiting to see how that goes. Thank's will do on Monday.. |
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| Author: | KJNick [ Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Front propeller shaft |
The joints on the front propeller shaft ARE replaceable. I had the T-case end fail again (torn boot) in less than a year and found a new CV joint on line. The same joint was used on WJ Grand Cherokees. I cut the band on the boot, removed 1 c-clip, packed the new joint with grease (provided with the joint) and put it all back together. The CV joint cost me $75. Much cheaper than a rebuilt shaft. |
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| Author: | FreedomKJ [ Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Front propeller shaft |
ZERO6 wrote: I was told about this company Tom Woods, that makes them. I called, and yet to receive a call back.. Autorock.com had one for about $348.00 delivered. But that did not include exchange, duty and/or brokerage fees, ect... The shafts you find at most places online aren't really true CV shafts, they're double-cardan (twin U-joint) shafts. I'm looking for a heavy duty, true ball and cage CV joint shaft. KJNick: Where di you get the WJ CVs from? EDIT: Forgot to mention, I looked up the front prop shaft and the MSRP is listed as $555, put chryslerpartsdirect has them for $432.90. |
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| Author: | ZERO6 [ Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Front propeller shaft |
Ya mine was $650.00 CND. Price of parts are different between the States and Canada, which really sucks. I did get an e-mail back from Tom Wood. I am going to see if I can send the factory shaft back and order one from Tom. If not, at least I tried. Thanx every1.. |
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| Author: | ZERO6 [ Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Front propeller shaft |
KJNick wrote: The joints on the front propeller shaft ARE replaceable. I had the T-case end fail again (torn boot) in less than a year and found a new CV joint on line. The same joint was used on WJ Grand Cherokees. I cut the band on the boot, removed 1 c-clip, packed the new joint with grease (provided with the joint) and put it all back together. The CV joint cost me $75. Much cheaper than a rebuilt shaft. Where would I look for this CV replacement kits? |
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