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Author:  mikey1273 [ Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:09 pm ]
Post subject:  yet another lift question

Ok so I want to lift and well I thought of it as an idea since b4 I picked up my Jeep. I want something moderate that will do light off road better than stock and not be too high or rough since I drive it everyday, its my only vehicle and I just got new tires before winter and I'm hoping they will look ok after the lift too.

I have become very settled on saving up for OME springs, shocks and struts. I have some cash now I can put aside for it too. I have Boiler's top plates thanks to lost santa. so what else should I be getting?

Author:  tommudd [ Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: yet another lift question

OME springs
if you hurry Jegs still had some shocks
Rancho RSX 17004 rear,
fronts RSX 17505s.
Teraflex bumpstops for the front
Most everyone thats lifted has theirs for a DD, so you're in good company
If you don't want much lift and a soft ride OME 926s for the front just a little heavier than stock
rears I would still do 948s
I ran mine for a while with 245-70s after I lifted they work

Author:  mikey1273 [ Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: yet another lift question

cool thanks

I was looking at the springs and shocks/struts as a package from DPG off-road for like $745 plus shipping. How much are the Rancho's? is that going to save me any cash? any difference preformance wise? I have heard the Rancho's are firmer.

I have a CRD and may want an ARB bumper in the future but an not sure yet. I like the tires I have now I think they look pretty tough on it as is and hope they won't look tiny once lifted. In boiler's pic he had a tire that was more for highway use and it didn't looks as good after the lift. Still I think his lift looked very good.

Author:  tommudd [ Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:48 pm ]
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WHOOPS....CRD

need OME 790 springs or should esp. if getting an ARB

Author:  mikey1273 [ Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: yet another lift question

well I may not get the arb but since I am thinking I'd like to maybe have one I should get springs to handle it so that if I do its not a problem and nothing will neeed redone. I was told he could customize the package with whatever springs would work best for my KJ.

still whats the difference detween Rancho and OME shocks/struts? Dirk at DPG Off-road was telling me they were going to not ride as smooth and were not as good as OME. Also the OME would make my Jeep have a more comfortable ride than stock as well as the lift and more wheel travel for off road. not sure how true that is.

THen after I get all the stuff I need to have it installed or find someone with the knowllege to help me install it. I don't know anyone local to take my under their wing.

Author:  ATXKJ [ Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: yet another lift question

OME struts work better on CRD's - the extra weight changes the response
Gassers seem to work well with the Ranchos

(I've got OME790's & NS131's - they work great)

Author:  mikey1273 [ Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: yet another lift question

cool so OME it is. do I need bump stops for the rear as well as the front?

Author:  tommudd [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: yet another lift question

OME states you do not need bumpstops in the front if only using springs, no clevis, top plate etc. Although depending on tires/ wheel offset you may or it would be cheap insurance
and yes OME shocks seem to work better with CRDs, not sure why since I think they tend to be softer :?

Author:  Prospect62 [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: yet another lift question

mikey1273 wrote:
cool so OME it is. do I need bump stops for the rear as well as the front?


It wouldn't hurt. I think you can make them using hockey pucks.

Author:  tommudd [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: yet another lift question

yes two per side works great

Author:  qwert380 [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:26 am ]
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is that 2 per side on the front or the rear?

is there a how to post for using the pucks?

thanks

Author:  tommudd [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: yet another lift question

Very simple, when you have the spring out drill a hole in the center of the spring pad, drill hole through the pucks, then bolt them on. Yes this is for the rear , fronts Teraflex makes extended ones that work great and just pop into where the original ones are
maybe this will help
Image

Author:  mikey1273 [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: yet another lift question

I see looks simple and cheap. where would I find the TerraFlex for the fronts? also I am not sure how I will have my lift installed, at a shop of maybe a lift party if I can get in on one. Do you think a shop would be ok with using hockey pucks?

Author:  tonycrd [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: yet another lift question

You only need rear bumpstops if you fit the OME 132L (L for 'long' version) rear shock or if you fit bigger tires/ofset rims.

The regular OME N132 rear shock is almost the same size as the stock shock.

I run Rancho 17004 rear shocks on my CRD and love them.

Terraflex front bumpstops can be found at Trailquest.com or Jeepinbyal.com.

Author:  tommudd [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: yet another lift question

See if you can't get a lift party together over there, should be someone around that has done one to help. I have had people drive 4 to 5 hours to come here to my place for a lift before, cheaper than paying a shop, plus teaches others how to do it. I think one time we have 12 or 14 people at a lift party maybe more!

Author:  mikey1273 [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: yet another lift question

Cool thanks the plan is to keep the stock wheels. I got new tires before winter, they are 245/70R16 all-terian and I like them so I hoped to keep them. Nothing is set in stone I would just hate to buy tires when the ones I have got great tread.

I have not set down exact shock model yet. do I need the long version?

Author:  tonycrd [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: yet another lift question

Hmm...tough question. You don't 'need' the longer version, but if you wheel your KJ you get much better articulation of the rear axle with the longer shocks.

Author:  tommudd [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: yet another lift question

I'll sort of disagree with Tony just to make his day. Stock length shocks will top out when off road or even on some speed bumps, curbs etc . Example I blew one rear Rancho while off road, ( my own fault, don't ask how :roll: ) and had to install the stock length for a couple of days and I heard it hit a couple of times on some side streets. So while not needed maybe it is a very wise investment.

Author:  tonycrd [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: yet another lift question

tommudd wrote:
I'll sort of disagree with Tony just to make his day.


Image

I was reffering to the N132 or N132L/17004....

Author:  mikey1273 [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: yet another lift question

Nice this discussion is good I like getting different opinons. So to me it sounds like I need to ask for the long shocks since either way having them is not going to be a bad thing.

Tom if I could come to your place to to it I just might. I really don't know many other Jeep people here that would be willing to help and well there aren't members on here I'm close with just yet. If I came to your place it would be an overnight trip being a about a 7 hour drive.

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