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 Post subject: clevis vs. isolators
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:11 pm 
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hello to all... im a newbie with some questions so be gentle.... lol i installed rusty's 2.5" kit like an idiot.... i was pressed for cash and didnt do it the right way to start.... i know..... so now ive found some rsx17505's and some rsx17004's still available..... ill be ordering ome 927's and 948's in a couple weeks. one thing i have going for me is i did use terraflex bumpstops up front and a few pucks in the back so i dont need to mess with bumpstops.... the question i have is..... does anyone know how many conduit locknuts up front equal an extra isolator in the rear...??? since im redoing almost everything, id like to get a little extra lift while im under there.... im running a 245/75/16 AT2 and the rusty's coils have sagged up front so i have a little rubbing now at full lock... :banghead:

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OME 927's..............OME 948's
Rancho 17505's......Rancho 17004's
3 conduit nuts........extra iso's
3/8" top plate
-JBA Gen 4.5 A-Arms
-Terraflex front bumpstops
-double hockeypuck rear bumpstops
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 Post subject: Re: clevis vs. isolators
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:31 pm 
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3 nut conduit clevis lift is 3/8in. This is doubled in actual lift to 3/4 in. 2 rear upper iso pads in an inch of lift. So 2 nut clevis lift is roughly a 1/2 in which equals 1 iso pad.

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 Post subject: Re: clevis vs. isolators
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:46 pm 
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the OME/Rancho kit should keep things nice and level shouldnt it...? so if i add spacers, i can add them in even amounts... (like 2 conduit nuts to one rear isolator for 1/2" of extra lift front and rear) or am i gonna have to tweak things around a little bit once everything is installed to find the correct match for a level height? im just trying to avoid getting under there 2 or three times to add or remove isolators and conduit nuts...... lastly, would anyone recommend the 1/4" strut spacer over 2 cunduit nuts...? other than the obvious price difference........

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2003 Liberty Renegade (Black)
(FRONT)..................(REAR)
OME 927's..............OME 948's
Rancho 17505's......Rancho 17004's
3 conduit nuts........extra iso's
3/8" top plate
-JBA Gen 4.5 A-Arms
-Terraflex front bumpstops
-double hockeypuck rear bumpstops
-245/75/16 General Grabber AT2's
-factory skids
-stock bumpers and trim


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 Post subject: Re: clevis vs. isolators
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:03 pm 
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is the spacer to lift ratio doubled in both the front and rear alike... (1/4" spacer = 1/2" actual lift)

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2003 Liberty Renegade (Black)
(FRONT)..................(REAR)
OME 927's..............OME 948's
Rancho 17505's......Rancho 17004's
3 conduit nuts........extra iso's
3/8" top plate
-JBA Gen 4.5 A-Arms
-Terraflex front bumpstops
-double hockeypuck rear bumpstops
-245/75/16 General Grabber AT2's
-factory skids
-stock bumpers and trim


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 Post subject: Re: clevis vs. isolators
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:19 pm 
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I believe it's only doubled in the front, but I'm not 100% sure on that. And it should be pretty level right off the bat so if you add 2 conduit nuts to each side that should be a 1/2 inch, and then 1 rear upper iso pad should be a 1/2 inch.
I'm working on getting My lift parts all together now, and I'm planning on using the JBA 1/4in strut plate and a 2 or 3 conduit nut clevis in the front, and 2 upper iso pads in the rear to theoretically get right at 3.5 inches. If you want a little extra lift you can try that. And Im by no means as knowledgable as Tom mudd or tjkj or some of the other veteran members. I've just had it told to me multiple times. :ROTFL: Best of luck,
Dalton :SOMBRERO:

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 Post subject: Re: clevis vs. isolators
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:19 pm 
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i really appreciate the info.... i was just lookin at the strut spacer plates from jba.... probably gonna go ahead and order a set. i was thinkin the same setup as you were describing.... 1/4" strut plates and a 2 nut clevis lift and two extra isolators.... or maybe just plates and 1 isolator and see how that settles.... im sure it will all be night and day to the crusty's crap i have now.....

p.s. from all ive been reading on this forum, ive gathered that tom mudd is the freakin man....

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2003 Liberty Renegade (Black)
(FRONT)..................(REAR)
OME 927's..............OME 948's
Rancho 17505's......Rancho 17004's
3 conduit nuts........extra iso's
3/8" top plate
-JBA Gen 4.5 A-Arms
-Terraflex front bumpstops
-double hockeypuck rear bumpstops
-245/75/16 General Grabber AT2's
-factory skids
-stock bumpers and trim


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 Post subject: Re: clevis vs. isolators
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:11 pm 
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p.s. from all ive been reading on this forum, ive gathered that tom mudd is the freakin man....


Then you're thinkin on the same page as me.

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 Post subject: Re: clevis vs. isolators
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:44 pm 
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isos in the rear usually give about 3/4 to 1/2 of their orig. thickness after they settle, it is after all, rubber :)

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 Post subject: Re: clevis vs. isolators
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:14 pm 
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if thats the case, it seems like 3 cunduit nuts for each clevis and 2 upper isos per side should be the ticket for about 3/4" of extra lift......... yay or nay...?

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2003 Liberty Renegade (Black)
(FRONT)..................(REAR)
OME 927's..............OME 948's
Rancho 17505's......Rancho 17004's
3 conduit nuts........extra iso's
3/8" top plate
-JBA Gen 4.5 A-Arms
-Terraflex front bumpstops
-double hockeypuck rear bumpstops
-245/75/16 General Grabber AT2's
-factory skids
-stock bumpers and trim


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 Post subject: Re: clevis vs. isolators
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:30 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: clevis vs. isolators
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:23 pm 
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are there any issues with stacking 3 upper isos in the rear...?

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2003 Liberty Renegade (Black)
(FRONT)..................(REAR)
OME 927's..............OME 948's
Rancho 17505's......Rancho 17004's
3 conduit nuts........extra iso's
3/8" top plate
-JBA Gen 4.5 A-Arms
-Terraflex front bumpstops
-double hockeypuck rear bumpstops
-245/75/16 General Grabber AT2's
-factory skids
-stock bumpers and trim


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 Post subject: Re: clevis vs. isolators
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:39 pm 
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digglesworth wrote:
are there any issues with stacking 3 upper isos in the rear...?


You can do two plus the stock in the rear
Lots of ones run that way

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 Post subject: Re: clevis vs. isolators
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:48 pm 
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i assume you mean two new plus one stock per side... thats a total of 3 uppers per side... if so then its settled...... im gonna get 6 locknuts for the clevis lift and 4 upper isos to put on top of the stock upper isos... then some uca's from JBA..... should be done in a few weeks and ill post pics... the money pit grows deeper by the minute.........lol

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2003 Liberty Renegade (Black)
(FRONT)..................(REAR)
OME 927's..............OME 948's
Rancho 17505's......Rancho 17004's
3 conduit nuts........extra iso's
3/8" top plate
-JBA Gen 4.5 A-Arms
-Terraflex front bumpstops
-double hockeypuck rear bumpstops
-245/75/16 General Grabber AT2's
-factory skids
-stock bumpers and trim


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 Post subject: Re: clevis vs. isolators
PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:00 pm 
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ive got 3 conduits on my 927's and 2 extra isos + the stock one on my jba25's and it was level until one of my jba25's decided it wanted to settle 2/3rds of an inch more than the other :o

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