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 Post subject: Replacement reverse lights......?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:42 pm 
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As I'm sure it is with everyone else's KJ's, my backup lights are anemic at best.
Are there replacement bulbs available that give off better light...?
I prefer not to mount an outboard light, and just find some sort of higher intensity bulbs.
If anyone knows of something please post the make, model number, and a source to buy them....I'd appreciate it greatly.....

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 Post subject: Re: Replacement reverse lights......?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:33 pm 
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get a pair of 48 count LED bulbs i replaced all of my tail light bulbs with them from autolumination.com

they're about 4x the stock light output

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I did the same. Not as bright as expected, but looks better.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:24 pm 
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No problems with flash rates on the turn signals?

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JeepinJarhead03 wrote:
get a pair of 36 count LED bulbs i replaced all of my tail light bulbs with them from autolumination.com

they're about 4x the stock light output




what was the part number for those back up lights?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:46 pm 
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I had meant 48, im pretty sure anyway

go to autolumination.com and the PN is the same as the stock bulb PN type, ie: 3157 then listed by the LED Count and then by color

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:19 pm 
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http://autolumination.com/3157_3156.htm


check out the 120 LED 3157's... i am rocking 60 and they are SUPER bright... i will be upgrading though :twisted:

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Jeepin_it_real wrote:
http://autolumination.com/3157_3156.htm


check out the 120 LED 3157's... i am rocking 60 and they are SUPER bright... i will be upgrading though :twisted:



dual circuit or single?

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they have both... the dual is 3157 the single is 3156

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Jeepin_it_real wrote:
they have both... the dual is 3157 the single is 3156




so for a 2003 liberty, i should go with the dual... the 3157?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:37 pm 
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for reverse lights you need 3156 for brake lights you need 3157

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 Post subject: Re: Replacement reverse lights......?
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Jeepin_it_real wrote:
for reverse lights you need 3156 for brake lights you need 3157



they are not the same bulb? thought they were . cool... def. looking in to these. u have any pictures of how bright they are?

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 Post subject: Re: Replacement reverse lights......?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:32 pm 
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on second thought nvm... i'm wrong... after a quick look to the sylvania bulb guide is a 3157... sorry guys... I don't think that really makes sense... cause a brake light is on with your driving lights and when you depress the brake, it gets brighter... isnt that why it's dual circuit.. reverse lights just stay one way... hmm lemme do some more research

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 Post subject: Re: Replacement reverse lights......?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:40 pm 
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yes my first statement was correct you can use 3156 for reverse lights... a 3157 is a low 8watt dicharge and a high 27watt... on a 3156 there is only a high...

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 Post subject: Re: Replacement reverse lights......?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:23 am 
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now given that dual circuit stuff they talkin about i may have ordered the wrong bulb for the reverse light, however

i ordered 3157's for all 3, turn, brake and reverse and im having no issues out of the reverse and its mega bright

i looked up my receipt, i was wrong on my memory mine are the 30 led 3157 T25 wedge bulbs

they come in 30, 60 and absurd lol

considering ive got a spare of each i wont be upgrading and to be totally honest, i dont really feel the need to ive got double tinted windows in the front which are barely legal by NC standards and i have no trouble seeing backing up at night with the windows up

before.. i couldn't see backing up with the windows down and leaning out !

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 Post subject: Re: Replacement reverse lights......?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:39 am 
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it does cause a fast flash, anything with a lower resistance than a standard bulb will without the proper resistance circuitry or a set of resistors

i only get a fast flash with the brake depressed, i never did put a resistor in-line with the right side brake feed and i wasn't sure that it wasn't picking up low resistance from the reverse lights, and sort of stopped caring

so with the resistors i put on the trailer harness, it only flashes fast when i depress the brake

which doesn't really bother me, and i dont even notice it anymore, if it did it all the time, i'd probably notice it

with a side effect of preventing someone from rear ending me a few months ago, i'm even more so hesitant to do anything about it

guy almost rear ended me, and after he pulled back onto the road pulled up next to me at a stop light, appologized and told me if i hadn't had that fast flash "module" that he wouldn't have noticed me turning that it was the rapid flashing that caught his attention (he was texting....)

so.. i guess whatever, but yes to answer your question they will and with the flasher unit and hazard unit being one and the same, there is no "HD Relay" to install

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jeepin jarhead the link i posted has already made resistors that you just put inline with the bulbs for your turn signals... its really work it

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Jeepin_it_real wrote:
jeepin jarhead the link i posted has already made resistors that you just put inline with the bulbs for your turn signals... its really work it


i put an integrated tail light in my ninja that was LED with the brake light and turn signals in one housing.. they gave me two little in line resistor boxes and it was normal speed. the boxes were maybe an 1.5 x .5 x .5 inch.

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im already using inline resistors, one on each turn signal on the signal feeds on the trailer harness, = no fast flash with the brake not pressed

i tested resistors on the brake feeds and it didn't resolve the fast flash with the brake depressed

i added a 3rd to the trailer harness and it resolved fast flash with parking lights

with the sensitive nature of the hazard flasher being able to detect low resistance anywhere in the lighting system, i felt it was going to turn into a big ordeal deal and i ended up just letting it go

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