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Author:  jeep4life7 [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:52 pm ]
Post subject:  lift kit help
so when i bought my jeep it was already lifted with a metal spacers its about 2in in front and 2in in back so i am a cheap 16 year old and started looking into the daystar lift kit its cheap but you get what you pay for so has any would had problems with the daystar
Author:  ATXKJ [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lift kit help
If you already have 2" metal spacers - then leave those alone -
save your money and get a good OME based lift.

I ran a Daystar for about 50K miles - it's okay - but the springs sagged (the coils are closer together and when they hit it damages the steel) and the strut response is nonlinear - i.e. because the spring is compressed - it doesn't respond to the initial inputs and it feels stiff.

So Okay - not great - not terrible - but real springs are better and worth the price.
Author:  jeep4life7 [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lift kit help
the problem is that the spacers are causing my struts to go bad would the daystar do the same thing, and also would my steering be the same feel that it is now with my metal spacers.
Author:  tommudd [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lift kit help
First thing that would help some is front bumpstops, Teraflex is the brand name JBA has them, should of had them already would not have stopped the destruction of the front shocks but would of slowed it down a lot.

If your shocks are already trashed though nothing but new ones is going to cure the problem
Author:  jeep4life7 [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lift kit help
tommudd wrote:
First thing that would help some is front bumpstops, Teraflex is the brand name JBA has them, should of had them already would not have stopped the destruction of the front shocks but would of slowed it down a lot.

If your shocks are already trashed though nothing but new ones is going to cure the problem

the weird thing is that i already have bumpstops but the only reason i would get the daystar lift is because i thought it is ceaper to get the lift then a good set of struts
Author:  KJWildman [ Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lift kit help
Don't waste your money on the Daystar lift. Not because it isn't a good cheap lift, ( I ran a spacer lift for 50K ) but because you don't need it. If you already have 2" aluminum spacers then you already have a spacer lift. That's all the Daystar is, your's is just a different brand. Why spend money you don't have on something you already have. :? :roll: :wink: Drive it like it is and buy springs, then in 3-4 weeks buy the struts, then in 3-4 weeks buy the rear shocks etc. Then post up and have a lift party in the Fall! :2cents:
Author:  vintageroy13 [ Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lift kit help
x2... you do not need another spacer lift---if your shocks are blown out then you need new ones---unless you do springs at the same time then your new shocks will blow too over time. just save the 600 bucks and buy budke's lift....i have the same set up and spent about 1100 total so it is definitely worth the money. best of luck
roy
Author:  jeep4life7 [ Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lift kit help
has any one had problems with the skyjacker 2.5in lift, or the roughcontry 3in lift (spacer lift but come with shock extentions and rear springs)
Author:  tommudd [ Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lift kit help
Skyjacker has the same spring rate as stock, will sag quickly
You didn't ask but Rustys is the same way will sag quickly, plus their rear shocks are total junk
Rough Country you would be switching out junk for ...ah junk
Again you didn't ask but BDS makes a half way decent lift but you still have to buy new front shocks so you're back at the price of a OME full coil lift

Just thought I would cover most of the bases before you asked the next question :BANANA:
Author:  jeep4life7 [ Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lift kit help
tommudd wrote:
Skyjacker has the same spring rate as stock, will sag quickly
You didn't ask but Rustys is the same way will sag quickly
Rough Country you would be switching out junk for ...ah junk

what lift do you suggest
Author:  tommudd [ Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lift kit help
:roll: :banghead: :juggle: :dizzy:

OME springs of course they're a proven product
if you're pricing XLOffroad has a deal on rancho RSX 17004s/17505s yet
also I heard KNOwhere2jeep.com has OME springs at a good price

Rev. Mudd must now say the prayer and have dinner
Author:  jeep4life7 [ Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lift kit help
im thinking about the rough country lift its only 300 and it looks decent to me or the rk 3.5 lift
Author:  jeep4life7 [ Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lift kit help
the specs for it says that i could put a 265 70 r 16 tire, my 245 75 r16s would still work fine with it right
Author:  Dog'em [ Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lift kit help
jeep4life7 wrote:
im thinking about the rough country lift its only 300 and it looks decent to me or the rk 3.5 lift



You still don't get it ! The Rough Country is just another spacer lift which is what you already have. Your springs, struts and shocks probably all need to be replaced due to the spacer lift already on it. Listen to these guys, I did and saved a ton of cash in the long run.
Author:  tommudd [ Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lift kit help
jeep4life7 wrote:
im thinking about the rough country lift its only 300 and it looks decent to me or the rk 3.5 lift



I give up!
You ask what to do , what works, what doesn't and so we tell you. Then you go right back to a spacer lift which is ( due to your shot stock springs and shocks) the worst thing you could want.
RK / Rough Country are junk period.
Now if you want to buy all new stock springs, all new shocks and then install a Daystar then OK, but of course by then you'll have as much as a OME full spring lift

I need a vacation :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Author:  jeep4life7 [ Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lift kit help
Dog'em wrote:
jeep4life7 wrote:
im thinking about the rough country lift its only 300 and it looks decent to me or the rk 3.5 lift



You still don't get it ! The Rough Country is just another spacer lift which is what you already have. Your springs, struts and shocks probably all need to be replaced due to the spacer lift already on it. Listen to these guys, I did and saved a ton of cash in the long run.

the one im looking at is a strut and spring lift
Author:  jeep4life7 [ Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lift kit help
tommudd wrote:
jeep4life7 wrote:
im thinking about the rough country lift its only 300 and it looks decent to me or the rk 3.5 lift



I give up!
You ask what to do , what works, what doesn't and so we tell you. Then you go right back to a spacer lift which is ( due to your shot stock springs and shocks) the worst thing you could want.
RK / Rough Country are junk period.
Now if you want to buy all new stock springs, all new shocks and then install a Daystar then OK, but of course by then you'll have as much as a OME full spring lift

I need a vacation :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

the one im looking at is a strut and spring lift so tell me were to find the right one for less then 500 dollors http://www.roughcountry.com/jeep_liberty_3.html thats the site plz dont give up on me im only 16 and im new to automotive so plz dont give up one me yet
Author:  jeep4life7 [ Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lift kit help
Ok so i found the ome lift but the only one i could find is a 1.5 is that translate to something else when im do or am i just not finding the right one
Author:  tommudd [ Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lift kit help
The Rough Country you are looking at comes with rear springs but for the front it uses a aluminum spacer like you have now for the front

OME springs do say 1.5 to 2 inches but you can get up to 3-3.5 real easy with a couple of additions
Author:  ATXKJ [ Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lift kit help
The OME springs are physically 1.5 inches (I think it's 40mm) longer than stock - however due to the increased spring rate - you will get much more lift.

Personally I took out a 2.5 Daystar put in '1.5' OME and had exactly the same height (no clevis or top spacer plates) - the Daystar had caused the stock springs to sag.
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