It is currently Mon Nov 09, 2026 6:31 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 22 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Post lift alignment
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:10 am 
Offline
LOST Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:56 pm
Posts: 760
Location: Westchester,NY
Just got home from our lift party, great success. Now tomorrow I get it aligned , what specifically should I tell them I need out of the alignment? As close to spec as possible? Specific toe ? Camber? Etc

_________________
'02 Liberty Limited 4x4
-Selec Trac
-MTR's 245/75-16
-Rock Lizard Super Skink Sliders(custom)
-Engine skid, Skidrow Transmission skid
-4" Lift - JBA 4.5 Gen A-arms
Installed@165,920k
Pilot lights on cowl
Engine replacement at 175k


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Post lift alignment
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:37 am 
Offline
Moderator / Lifetime Member
Moderator / Lifetime Member

Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:49 pm
Posts: 27226
Location: NOW Southeastern Ohio/ Tanzania
as close to factory specs as possible
if they are any good and know what they are doing you should not have to tell them anything

_________________
MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Post lift alignment
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:44 am 
Offline
Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member

Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 12988
Location: Colorado Springs
Don't be surprised is they can not get caster in spec,it's a non-tire wearing angle anyway's.Camber and tow are the important ones but caster needs to be pretty even side to side.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Post lift alignment
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:14 pm 
Offline
LOST Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:56 pm
Posts: 760
Location: Westchester,NY
Well the guy said that he could not align it because the UCAs move and the tire move. Is that what you fellows experience when you need to switch to the JBA arms?

_________________
'02 Liberty Limited 4x4
-Selec Trac
-MTR's 245/75-16
-Rock Lizard Super Skink Sliders(custom)
-Engine skid, Skidrow Transmission skid
-4" Lift - JBA 4.5 Gen A-arms
Installed@165,920k
Pilot lights on cowl
Engine replacement at 175k


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Post lift alignment
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:19 pm 
Offline
Moderator / Lifetime Member
Moderator / Lifetime Member

Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:49 pm
Posts: 27226
Location: NOW Southeastern Ohio/ Tanzania
Did he say they were worn out? That is the only reason they should move.

_________________
MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Post lift alignment
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:23 pm 
Offline
LOST Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:56 pm
Posts: 760
Location: Westchester,NY
I'm going to gues they're worn but, he did not state that.

_________________
'02 Liberty Limited 4x4
-Selec Trac
-MTR's 245/75-16
-Rock Lizard Super Skink Sliders(custom)
-Engine skid, Skidrow Transmission skid
-4" Lift - JBA 4.5 Gen A-arms
Installed@165,920k
Pilot lights on cowl
Engine replacement at 175k


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Post lift alignment
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:24 pm 
Offline
Moderator / Lifetime Member
Moderator / Lifetime Member

Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:49 pm
Posts: 27226
Location: NOW Southeastern Ohio/ Tanzania
well be careful then due to seeing some come apart. Call Marlin (JBA) he can have a set to you in just a couple of days.

_________________
MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Post lift alignment
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:55 pm 
Offline
LOST Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:56 pm
Posts: 760
Location: Westchester,NY
Ya I'm gonna bring it to a wheel alignment speciList tomorrow see what he says. But I will probably get new ones, you want to buy me them as a graduation gift?:) hehe

_________________
'02 Liberty Limited 4x4
-Selec Trac
-MTR's 245/75-16
-Rock Lizard Super Skink Sliders(custom)
-Engine skid, Skidrow Transmission skid
-4" Lift - JBA 4.5 Gen A-arms
Installed@165,920k
Pilot lights on cowl
Engine replacement at 175k


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Post lift alignment
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:14 pm 
Offline
Moderator / Lifetime Member
Moderator / Lifetime Member

Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:49 pm
Posts: 27226
Location: NOW Southeastern Ohio/ Tanzania
Get a DNA test first and see if I can claim you if not then....NO! :-)r

_________________
MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Post lift alignment
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:14 am 
Offline
Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:30 pm
Posts: 639
Location: Astoria, NY
Hey Andrew, remember you were looking at the bushings in the uca pockets and noted how try were pretty shot and cracked. Could that be what is causing the play in the uca? Everything otherwise looked fine with the balljoints on the uca? Hope it works out for you.

_________________
2006 Black Sport 4x4
2" Class 4 Reese Hitch
Huskies and Igees
Full Mopar Skids
Yakima roof rack system
ARB bumper
Hella 500's
Rock Lizard Super Skinks
Frankenlift Premium II
GY Duratracs 245/70/16 AT's on Cragar Soft 8s
JBA 4.5 A-arms
Cobra Classic CB


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Post lift alignment
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:03 am 
Offline
LOST Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:56 pm
Posts: 760
Location: Westchester,NY
Ya I'm bringing it to an alignment shop today who hopefully will kno better than Mavis, wouldn't I have noiticed it before? Guy at Mavis said it moved the whole tire? Idk well see worse comes to worse I'll have some fancy red arms like you and dean :)

_________________
'02 Liberty Limited 4x4
-Selec Trac
-MTR's 245/75-16
-Rock Lizard Super Skink Sliders(custom)
-Engine skid, Skidrow Transmission skid
-4" Lift - JBA 4.5 Gen A-arms
Installed@165,920k
Pilot lights on cowl
Engine replacement at 175k


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Post lift alignment
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:01 pm 
Offline
LOST Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:56 pm
Posts: 760
Location: Westchester,NY
Soalll went well during Alignment, Mavis morons must have been too lazy and didn't want to do it. There was afterall no play in the UCAs, a slightly bent right front knuckle was extent of the issues so he adjusted caster to allow it to stay a little straighter. Still getting a mild vibration/ steering wheel shake, anything to limit this?

Image
Image

_________________
'02 Liberty Limited 4x4
-Selec Trac
-MTR's 245/75-16
-Rock Lizard Super Skink Sliders(custom)
-Engine skid, Skidrow Transmission skid
-4" Lift - JBA 4.5 Gen A-arms
Installed@165,920k
Pilot lights on cowl
Engine replacement at 175k


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Post lift alignment
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:40 pm 
Offline
Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:30 pm
Posts: 639
Location: Astoria, NY
Glad it all worked out for you in the end. Funny you went to mavis and they told you the arms were loose when they weren't. When I was mounting some rims they told me that the tires I bought would never fit under my kj and that I would have problems with the ABS system. I promptly took them to my local mech who couldn't wait for me to get them under the jeep.
I was hoping everything we did was right, I guess it was. See ya on the trails soon!

_________________
2006 Black Sport 4x4
2" Class 4 Reese Hitch
Huskies and Igees
Full Mopar Skids
Yakima roof rack system
ARB bumper
Hella 500's
Rock Lizard Super Skinks
Frankenlift Premium II
GY Duratracs 245/70/16 AT's on Cragar Soft 8s
JBA 4.5 A-arms
Cobra Classic CB


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Post lift alignment
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:35 pm 
Offline
LOST Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:56 pm
Posts: 760
Location: Westchester,NY
Yeah Jeff I was so surprised, I was like we did not even touch them and they were fine before, I guess Mavis dosent like USD$ , that's fine I'll take my truck to someone who's reputable and wants my money. Ya I cant wait to go wheel with you guys that spot seemed pretty cool.

_________________
'02 Liberty Limited 4x4
-Selec Trac
-MTR's 245/75-16
-Rock Lizard Super Skink Sliders(custom)
-Engine skid, Skidrow Transmission skid
-4" Lift - JBA 4.5 Gen A-arms
Installed@165,920k
Pilot lights on cowl
Engine replacement at 175k


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Post lift alignment
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:24 pm 
Offline
Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member

Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 12988
Location: Colorado Springs
Vranes17 wrote:
Soalll went well during Alignment, Mavis morons must have been too lazy and didn't want to do it. There was afterall no play in the UCAs, a slightly bent right front knuckle was extent of the issues so he adjusted caster to allow it to stay a little straighter. Still getting a mild vibration/ steering wheel shake, anything to limit this?

Image
Image

I'd be very concerned with that R/F camber,need to get that fixed ASAP or bye-bye R/F tire.They could have sacrificed some caster to get that camber back in more,caster is not a tire wearing angle like camber is and 2 degrees is a excessive amount of camber.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Post lift alignment
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:49 pm 
Offline
LOST Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:56 pm
Posts: 760
Location: Westchester,NY
So I need to look for a new knuckle , will that get rid of the steerig wheel shake? anyone have a extra right front knuckle?

_________________
'02 Liberty Limited 4x4
-Selec Trac
-MTR's 245/75-16
-Rock Lizard Super Skink Sliders(custom)
-Engine skid, Skidrow Transmission skid
-4" Lift - JBA 4.5 Gen A-arms
Installed@165,920k
Pilot lights on cowl
Engine replacement at 175k


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Post lift alignment
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:23 am 
Offline
Moderator / Lifetime Member
Moderator / Lifetime Member

Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:49 pm
Posts: 27226
Location: NOW Southeastern Ohio/ Tanzania
Whats wrong with the knuckle?

_________________
MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Post lift alignment
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:59 pm 
Offline
LOST Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:56 pm
Posts: 760
Location: Westchester,NY
He said it was bent, hence the reason for not being able to get the RF camber aligned properly

_________________
'02 Liberty Limited 4x4
-Selec Trac
-MTR's 245/75-16
-Rock Lizard Super Skink Sliders(custom)
-Engine skid, Skidrow Transmission skid
-4" Lift - JBA 4.5 Gen A-arms
Installed@165,920k
Pilot lights on cowl
Engine replacement at 175k


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Post lift alignment
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:28 pm 
Offline
Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member

Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 12988
Location: Colorado Springs
Vranes17 wrote:
He said it was bent, hence the reason for not being able to get the RF camber aligned properly

I'd be more inclined that either the UCA or LCA is bent and not the knuckle.

Grab a flashlight and look over the UCA,LCA,and knuckle real good(with tire off) and look for what appears to be cracking rust on the surface,that is where the bend is.May take a few hours to find,just look over real well.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Post lift alignment
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:54 pm 
Offline
LOST Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:56 pm
Posts: 760
Location: Westchester,NY
I guess I'll have to bring it home to the shop to see. Also came across this so, gotta check also
APRIL 2009 --  Chrysler is recalling 42,469 MY 2002-2003 Jeep Liberty vehicles originally sold in or currently registered in salt belt States of Connecticut, Delaware, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia , Wisconsin and the District of Columbia. The front suspension upper control arm ball joint may experience a loss of lubrication which could lead to corrosion, accelerated wear, and possible separation while driving. Failure of the ball joint could result in a loss of steering capability, increasing the risk of a crash. Dealers will replace the front upper control arm assemblies free of charge. The manufacturer has not yet provided an owner notification schedule. Owners may contact Chrysler at 1-800-853-1403. 09V-119

_________________
'02 Liberty Limited 4x4
-Selec Trac
-MTR's 245/75-16
-Rock Lizard Super Skink Sliders(custom)
-Engine skid, Skidrow Transmission skid
-4" Lift - JBA 4.5 Gen A-arms
Installed@165,920k
Pilot lights on cowl
Engine replacement at 175k


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 22 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group. Color scheme by ColorizeIt!
Logo by pixeldecals.com