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 Post subject: Long distance travel
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:14 am 
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I don't know if this is the right section, but if not I hope the mods will move it to the right place. For anyone who asks "can the KJ really be used for long distance travel?" have a look at this - www.londondelhibyroad.com :D

Congratulations to the couple who did it - their blog makes for very interesting reading.

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 Post subject: Re: Long distance travel
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:06 pm 
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well I mean I think the same can be said for alot of vehicles but thats a hell of a roadtrip. Only 8400 miles though?

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 Post subject: Re: Long distance travel
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:24 pm 
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ONLY 8400 miles? How far did you think it was? :D It's also over some very rough and arduous country - it's a tough trip, believe me.

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 Post subject: Re: Long distance travel
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:59 pm 
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My mistake, I thought he meant 8400 on road. I was like thats NBD, but over terrain, thats impressive. Didnt have the time to read it all. Any mech problems?

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 Post subject: Re: Long distance travel
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:54 pm 
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Sorry - when I referred to the terrain, I meant the roads over a lot of that trip are not what most of us in the Western world really think of as roads-its like driving on trails at times because they are in such a poor and extremely rough and sometimes broken condition, and with other traffic which drives how it likes on whichever side of the road it feels like. Its not funny when you're coming round a bend on a pretty rough mountain road, on what should be"your" side of the road, to find an overloaded 30-ton truck coming the other way directly at you, because the road on the truckers side (if he even cares which side he's on) has partly crumbled away.

Weather erosion and lack of maintenance, together with some very heavy vehicles can wash parts of the road away. Then there's the local driving habits to contend with. In India for example, driving is terrifying. During the day, it can be like driving in a mobile madhouse with vehicles everywhere and NO observable lane or road discipline, and at night, a lot of people - including trucks and buses, don't use lights! Scared the cr*p out of me I can tell you!

Then there's the quality of the fuel to contend with. Let's say it's variable and sometimes - depending on where you are, unobtainable until "the next delivery" which might be a few days!

I don't think from my reading of their blog, that they really experienced any mechanical problems and they brought spares along to perform a service part way through the journey. I would say the engine probably struggled a bit in the mountains - if they were high enough to get altitude sickness (as his wife did) then they were high enough for the engine to get oxygen starved!

The thing is, most people who do this trip, do it in fully expedition-kitted out Land Rovers and Land Cruisers, not in a little KJ with a service before it sets off, a jerry can for spare fuel, and a set of the spares you need to perform a service en-route. Proof indeed for all those who think "Mall crawler" :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Long distance travel
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:18 pm 
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Lancer wrote:
Sorry - when I referred to the terrain, I meant the roads over a lot of that trip are not what most of us in the Western world really think of as roads-its like driving on trails at times because they are in such a poor and extremely rough and sometimes broken condition, and with other traffic which drives how it likes on whichever side of the road it feels like. Its not funny when you're coming round a bend on a pretty rough mountain road, on what should be"your" side of the road, to find an overloaded 30-ton truck coming the other way directly at you, because the road on the truckers side (if he even cares which side he's on) has partly crumbled away.

Weather erosion and lack of maintenance, together with some very heavy vehicles can wash parts of the road away. Then there's the local driving habits to contend with. In India for example, driving is terrifying. During the day, it can be like driving in a mobile madhouse with vehicles everywhere and NO observable lane or road discipline, and at night, a lot of people - including trucks and buses, don't use lights! Scared the cr*p out of me I can tell you!

Then there's the quality of the fuel to contend with. Let's say it's variable and sometimes - depending on where you are, unobtainable until "the next delivery" which might be a few days!

I don't think from my reading of their blog, that they really experienced any mechanical problems and they brought spares along to perform a service part way through the journey. I would say the engine probably struggled a bit in the mountains - if they were high enough to get altitude sickness (as his wife did) then they were high enough for the engine to get oxygen starved!

The thing is, most people who do this trip, do it in fully expedition-kitted out Land Rovers and Land Cruisers, not in a little KJ with a service before it sets off, a jerry can for spare fuel, and a set of the spares you need to perform a service en-route. Proof indeed for all those who think "Mall crawler" :lol:


Really........thats interesting. Always wondered how it was East.

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 Post subject: Re: Long distance travel
PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:24 am 
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The ordinary people you meet along that road can be the friendliest and most hospitable people you could hope to meet. The officials can be either very helpful or the most annoyingly officious gits imaginable! A huge store of patience, and a warm friendly smile are your key tools either way. Generally, though, most of the people are interested in travellers and generally inclined to be well disposed toward you, especially if you are friendly yourself and show an interest in their country and area.

You do still find bandits very occasionally, but you are generally warned of them when you arrive somewhere, and if they are thought to be a particular problem, the local police/military will usually be on hand to provide an escort - not just for you, but also for long-distance trucks and for buses. You NEVER carry weapons, even if everyone else there seems armed to the teeth - the police/army/other officials will take a very dim view and you then enter a world of trouble.

India is lovely, and the people terrific. I just can't eat the food - any form of curry makes me very violently sick, but the driving can scare the life out of you. We were in the north at the border with Nepal - night had fallen, and a large heavily overloaded truck came around the corner. It had no headlights, but there were 2 small boys hanging onto the front holding flashlights, and they weren't maglites either!

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