I command that attention. Just ask my girlfriend.
;o;oagi Sorry that's where my head just bounced off the keyboard after she read that.
Parakeet
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| Author: | 4wdParakeet [ Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Quick disconnects??? |
Hey I know this has probally been a topic that's been worked over, but I'm too lazy to look for myself. This is a 2 part question. First, has anybody made a quick disconnect for the KJ yet? Second, Do you guys tie up you sway bar when you disco the links and if you do what do you tie it up too? Parakeet |
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| Author: | pixeldzn [ Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:19 am ] |
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There is a rumor that the JKS Quicker Discos will be made KJ compatible real soon. I believe there have been some other solutions floated around the forum before the move .... Everyone I have ever seen disco takes the whole bar out and throws it in the back of thier KJ. |
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| Author: | 4wdParakeet [ Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:35 am ] |
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You know since I just trimmed the hell out of the front bumper I can get to the sway bar mounts easy enough. I wont be able to do that after I get my new skid plate made though. Parakeet |
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| Author: | Ed [ Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:57 pm ] |
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What we need is something like this; http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=5460&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=24 You can get either manual (you take the pin in and out yourself) or semi-automatic (an air-ram moves the pin for you) versions. It's made for the Mitsubishi Pajero (dunno what that'll be called in the US!) but it wouldn't be a huge stretch of the imagination to fit one to a KJ. One problem is that they've only currently made them up to 30mm in size, I measure my anti-roll bar at 31mm, but possibly by the time you've Dremelled off the paint and a sliver of metal you'd get the 30mm version to fit. The other problem is that I'm not certain there's enough room between the anti-roll bar and the crossmember for it to fit on a KJ. It looks like there's loads of room in that shot on the Pajero, on a KJ it's a bit tighter behind the bar. Finally, I haven't been able to get in touch with the guy who makes them. I'm just not willing to throw $290 at him unless I can first verify that I'll be able to fit it. Maybe I'll badger him again at some point. |
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| Author: | 4wdParakeet [ Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:35 pm ] |
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I shot the guys at JKS an e-mail last night about quick discos for the KJ's. I just checked my e-mail and low and behold this is what I found. Quote: Chris,
They are in developement. Hopefully they will be available in the next 60 days or so. Please check back then. Best Regards, Jim Nollette JKS Manufacturing 308-762-6949 tech@jksmfg.com Hopefully this is a acurate estimation of time for us. Parakeet |
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| Author: | Eddo [ Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:11 pm ] |
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4wdParakeet wrote: I shot the guys at JKS an e-mail last night about quick discos for the KJ's. I just checked my e-mail and low and behold this is what I found.
Quote: Chris, They are in developement. Hopefully they will be available in the next 60 days or so. Please check back then. Best Regards, Jim Nollette JKS Manufacturing 308-762-6949 tech@jksmfg.com Hopefully this is a acurate estimation of time for us. Parakeet They said 60 days ago last month. Hopefully this doesnt turn into another supper lift. Definitely would like some quick discos |
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| Author: | pixeldzn [ Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:56 pm ] |
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4wdParakeet wrote: I shot the guys at JKS an e-mail last night about quick discos for the KJ's. I just checked my e-mail and low and behold this is what I found.
Quote: Chris, They are in developement. Hopefully they will be available in the next 60 days or so. Please check back then. Best Regards, Jim Nollette JKS Manufacturing 308-762-6949 tech@jksmfg.com Hopefully this is a acurate estimation of time for us. Parakeet What the hell? I sent him an email too last night and got no response. phfbbbt! |
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| Author: | 4wdParakeet [ Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:40 am ] |
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I command that attention. Just ask my girlfriend.
;o;oagi Sorry that's where my head just bounced off the keyboard after she read that. Parakeet |
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| Author: | RespectMyLibertay [ Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:48 am ] |
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4wdParakeet wrote: I command that attention. Just ask my girlfriend.
;o;oagi Sorry that's where my head just bounced off the keyboard after she read that. Parakeet 
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| Author: | 4wdParakeet [ Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:59 pm ] |
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so do you guy that disco the front take the sway bar completely off or do you tie it up like some of the TJ guys Parakeet |
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| Author: | Eddo [ Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:55 pm ] |
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4wdParakeet wrote: so do you guy that disco the front take the sway bar completely off or do you tie it up like some of the TJ guys
Parakeet For me it is just as easy to take the whole thing off and throw it in the back of the Jeep. That is unless it is cold or raining out. |
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| Author: | lilmatty [ Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:24 am ] |
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4wdParakeet wrote: so do you guy that disco the front take the sway bar completely off or do you tie it up like some of the TJ guys
Parakeet 6 nuts, 18mm and its off. Quick discos aren't that much quicker. I'm curious as to what jks' solution is since just removing the links won't keep the bar from banging on the arms. |
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| Author: | camper [ Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:51 pm ] |
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I took advice from this forum a couple years ago....I went down to the local parts store and asked for a piece of formed radiator hose.....I don't remember how we finally settled on which one, but I bought a gates no. 21794 and cut a couple 4 inch sections out of it.....I split them like a hotdog bun and wrapped them around the sway bar where they would make contact with the lower control arm.....used a couple tie wraps to strap them tight..... 
when I want to disco, I just wait till I get to the trail ride gathering and lay down under the front of the jeep with a 18mm socket and 15mm wrench and remove the links....it only takes a few minutes to do....you don't have to jack the jeep or remove a tire.....it's easier if the ground is level so that the bar has no unnecessary tension on it.....if the bar bangs on the arms I never hear it.....it may make a difference that my bar doesn't just drop down of it's own weight....the frame mount bushings are pretty snug..... I did that in moab and I was crawling around with the best of them.... the florida trails aren't that extreme, so sometimes I don't even worry about disconnecting....I always reconnect the front before I begin my highway drive home.....again, it's easier if you park on level ground....I still have my rear sway bar installed, although I have removed it on ocassion..... |
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| Author: | lilmatty [ Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:18 pm ] |
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Steve: I like those dings on your LCA.
Your technique removes four nuts. The complete bar is removed with 6 nuts. |
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| Author: | lilmatty [ Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Don't hold your breath |
In more conversation with JKS they do not even have a solution yet. They hate the soluion involving the cut swaybar and pinned sleeve. But they did agree that emailing them with interest as some on this thread have done will get their attention and a project in the works. MT |
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| Author: | Ed [ Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:14 am ] |
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Quote: They hate the soluion involving the cut swaybar and pinned sleeve.
Did they elaborate on why they hate it? [edit]Actually, why don't I email them and ask them...![/edit] It seems to work great for the 'bishi guys, and it's effectively a lower-tech version of what's on the new Wrangler and Dodge Power Wagon. Of course cutting your sway bar in half isn't for the faint of heart, but I was quoted AU$125 for a new one (well a second-hand one from a breakers) so it's not a very expensive mistake to put right. In fact, I'd probably keep a 'solid' sway bar for day-to-day use and only swap it out for the disconnectable version when I knew I was going on an off-road adventure! |
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| Author: | 4wdParakeet [ Mon May 08, 2006 10:18 pm ] |
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I know that this is an old thread but I just emailed them the other day and this is what they sent me back. Quote: Chris,
We are waiting on a small tab to be produced that will help hold the swaybar out of the way. The QD's have always been done but the swaybar holder proved to be almost impossible to produce inexpensively. We didn't want to have to raise the price of a pair of KJ "Quicker Disconnects" above and beyond that of the rest of our QD line. What we came up with will hold the swaybar in a nuetral position that will not come in contact with the upper or lower a-arm during suspension travel. Kind Regards, Jim Nollette JKS Manufacturing 308-762-6949 tech@jksmfg.com Parakeet |
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| Author: | spencevans [ Mon May 08, 2006 11:12 pm ] |
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lilmatty wrote: 4wdParakeet wrote: so do you guy that disco the front take the sway bar completely off or do you tie it up like some of the TJ guys Parakeet 6 nuts, 18mm and its off. Quick discos aren't that much quicker. I'm curious as to what jks' solution is since just removing the links won't keep the bar from banging on the arms. Enough said Matt. If you don't know how to remove this thing, then you should probably stay on the pavement. Not because with it connected the Liberty is incapable, but because if you ever had a break down on the trail you would be the most clueless mechanic ever. This is an extremely easy thing to remove, This is definately easier than changing the oil. Takes about 5 minutes if you have air powered tools. |
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| Author: | allyrand [ Tue May 09, 2006 12:08 am ] |
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Matt is fully capable of removing his swaybar....I don't know where you got the hes not capable...I guess your eyes were somewhere else in Moab..I would refrain to call someone clueless on here when obviously your the one who is clueless and knows nothing about Matt in person...this post is heading for being locked at record speed |
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| Author: | OzLtd [ Tue May 09, 2006 1:50 am ] |
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Tsk Tsk ladies, no back to the question at hand. I always remove the swaybar at the entrance of a trail, sometimes I have been known to remove it at home before I head out, but that got too tedious. I couldnt care less about the body roll on the road as i drive like a granny when its off, but the wife felt a bit queezy 
I would like to see what the JKS QD's end up looking like. The problem with the KJ's IFS43 is that it relies HEAVILY on the front sway to limit its movement - the TJ's sussy design wouldnt put 1/2 the Nm of force on the swaybar as the KJ does. I'm a bit worried about how long the QD's bushings will last. I hope they go straight for hardcore engineering and use proper steel rose/jonny/heim joints. I do like the idea of the electronic version. This would be one of the most simple & blingy ways of disconnecting the swaybar I have ever seen. The is no reason why the electronic sleeve part itself couldnt be machined or made to suit/fit. Melbourne you say? I cant wait to hear more. Pop a thread in the AJOR forum  !!
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