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Author:  joshmarchand [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:54 am ]
Post subject:  Lifting this weekend

So despite reverse not working, I am gonna attempt to lift the 03 libby on Saturday.
Clearly I have my priorities straight..... Can't get into the tranny shop til Tuesday anyway.

I have:

MD OME springs all round
Rancho RS5000's w/long ones for the back
3/8" top plates
2 rear upper ISO's per side
Terraflex bumpstops
Two hockey pucks per side
2 1/2" long 5/16" self tapping bolts and washers
Will do the clevis as well

Is there anything I'm missing?
The only info I could find for Installing was the write up for the CRD. Is the process the same for a gasser?
Any other tips and tricks to cut time?
I am going to compress the springs myself so I don't have to leave.
How much of a clevis lift should I do? I don't want to kill the cv's and can't do the a-arms til next year.
Should I leave the clevis out until the springs settle?

Will try to post pics when done.

Author:  tommudd [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Lifting this weekend

Medium springs??/
Ok
do a 1/4 inch clevis lift along with the 3/8 inch top plate
drill through the spring plate in the rear and install a bolt/nut, not a self tapper, PITA if you ever want to remove it
The RS line of shocks will last for a while for you
With the mediums should have too much problem installing them but may have a couple of ratchet straps handy just in case to help pull the bottom of the clevis in
As long as you remove the right parts you'll be fine, careful with compressing the springs although the Mediums are not as bad as others

Author:  Megalos [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:58 pm ]
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And you might need to fab up a relocation bracket for the brake hose in the rear...Mine is custom from Mudd's Garage.

Author:  tommudd [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:04 pm ]
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Megalos wrote:
And you might need to fab up a relocation bracket for the brake hose in the rear...Mine is custom from Mudd's Garage.


He'll be good on that issue, has an 03. Bracket is need on 05-07s
But having custom made parts from Mudds Garage is special ha ha

Author:  joshmarchand [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Lifting this weekend

Yeah I did medium springs cause its the wife's and she doesn't want it to ride like a truck.
And if I ever do a bumper it would be a light one like the matrix brush guard from marlin.


Cool! Well, I'm stoked to have this done! Hopefully it all goes smooth!
Thanks guys!

Author:  5characters [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:37 pm ]
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joshmarchand wrote:
Two hockey pucks per side


What? :shock: Why?

Author:  KJ_WHEELER_2010 [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:50 pm ]
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Post some pictures when its done :JEEPIN:

Author:  tommudd [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:26 pm ]
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5characters wrote:
joshmarchand wrote:
Two hockey pucks per side


What? :shock: Why?

Come on now, catch up :wink:
We use 2 hockey pucks per side in the rear for two inches of bumpstops
or 3 depending on amount of lift, tire size/ wheel width/backspacing
Front of course we use Teraflex ones

Author:  5characters [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:13 pm ]
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tommudd wrote:
5characters wrote:
joshmarchand wrote:
Two hockey pucks per side


What? :shock: Why?

Come on now, catch up :wink:
We use 2 hockey pucks per side in the rear for two inches of bumpstops
or 3 depending on amount of lift, tire size/ wheel width/backspacing
Front of course we use Teraflex ones


Thats one of those things that I never would of thought of.

Author:  TurboGoKart [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:24 pm ]
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You lucky KJ people. Hockey pucks don't fit in our springs lol. Forced me to order the JBA rear stops. Oh well. They weren't that much. :mrgreen:

Author:  joshmarchand [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Lifting this weekend

So it's done!
I'll get some pics up when we get some light.

Was alot harder than I expected. Stupid things like the coil compressors worked great to compress, but once the front assembly was assembled couldn't get the compressor out. I swear it took an hour or more on the drivers side front spring.

And the front bumpstops were way harder than they looked. Did the first one with the wheel off and a sledge. Second with the wheel on and a 2x6 to pry it it. Second way was better but still mashed my finger real good!

Back was a cinch. Best tip that made it a breeze is to throw the sisscor jack I between the frame and axle brace (don't know what that part is...) otherwise it's tight to get the springs in.

Over all got over 4.5" from where it was sitting. And is around 22.75 center of hub to fender, maybe a little more. Makes the 245/75/16's look small. I'll probably do 235/85's or 265/75's next time.

Now it goes into the tranny shop tomorrow. Hopefully that doesn't break me, so that I can take it in for an alignment. Anyone know the link with the alignment specs for the lifted KJ?

Author:  tommudd [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:55 pm ]
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Thats why you have them compressed somewhere, much easier/faster and MUCH SAFER
so you got 3.75 inches of lift will settle in at 3.5 or so, not bad then
You'll have tome now to save up for a complete regear then larger tires :wink:

Do 10-12 more and you'll have it down to a science then :ROTFL:

Author:  KJ_WHEELER_2010 [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:50 pm ]
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Man with that much lift you could clear 265's better than me. I have the OME lift. I think its like 2" or something. I had to do a ton of trimming to fit my 265/75R16's and they still rub slightly.

Author:  tommudd [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:06 pm ]
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Should really have 3.75 to 4 inches of lift to run a 32 inch tire
anything less and its a hack job to make them fit
and then .......REGEAR :lol: also

Author:  KJ_WHEELER_2010 [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:05 pm ]
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Yeah, I deff had to do some cutting to make them fit. I've always been on the "low lift, big tire" band wagon though for better center of gravity. Yes.....I deff need to regear :D I just bought a house though so I have a few other things I gotta do first.

Author:  joshmarchand [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:07 pm ]
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First is before, and then two after the lift.

Author:  tommudd [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:24 pm ]
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Here ya go

Image

Author:  KJ_WHEELER_2010 [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:33 pm ]
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Looks good!! Welcome to the club :CAMPING:

Author:  joshmarchand [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:37 pm ]
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Cheers wheeler!

Just for anyone wondering, it took a noob like me with crap tools about 8 hours to install.
Had help for the first front. And them it was all solo.

Things I would do differently:
-Make sure I had a big pry bar
-2lb hammer instead of a sledge and little guy. Niether worked well
- figure out a way to get the compressors out better. Like when they are fully compressing the spring, throw a spacer in between the coils where each of the hooks are. So when the tension is released it doesn't close the spring around the compressors. Has to be able to slide out too. Next time I would make 4 wooden wedges that taper from an inch to an inch and a half over 3 inches.
- Buy an impact wrench of some sort.

But I would totally do it again. I bet I could already knock a couple of hours off.

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