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Author:  MaxA [ Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Saggy Old Libby
So i made a bumper for my gas kj 2 years ago and plopped a 8k winch on it and now my front springs are shot. i hit bump stop on the smallest cracks in the road :banghead: . I only have a taraflex spacer kit and stock springs. i ordered iron man diesel springs and rugged ridge stock height struts. I Wheel just about every other weekend, slow crawling on rocks no harsh impacts. I want to keep my front high without sacrificing what little IFS flex i have. do you guys think that diesel springs with a 1.5 lift on stock height struts will have to much pre-load and ride rough

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Author:  tommudd [ Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Saggy Old Libby
For one I would use better shocks, stay with OME, Bilstein or the Ironman
The CRD springs should fit the bill with the extra weight of the bumper and winch
I run OME 790s (CRD) on mine in front, have for over 57,000 miles
Author:  MaxA [ Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Saggy Old Libby
So I ended up going with the iron man springs on rock ridge struts and it rides 100 times better now that it is all broken in. I have 2600 miles on it so far. I got a lot more lift then i thought out of it so the same day i got it done i orderd some 33s to fill the wheel wells. It only rub when I turn sharp in reverse. Now I just need to level the back with the front :P .

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Author:  tommudd [ Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Saggy Old Libby
Did you order 4.10s yet
should of really went with better shocks as well

I hope you threw away that spacer lift and didn't reuse it along with the new springs

sorry but just being honest :wink:
Author:  MaxA [ Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Saggy Old Libby
I do still have the bolt on spacers what is the danger with running both? Im new to the ifs thing. actually this is my first vehicle that isant a wrangler.
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Author:  KK4x4 [ Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Saggy Old Libby
The cv's can't handle the height of the lift plus spacers
Author:  tommudd [ Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Saggy Old Libby
Too high for the CVs,
will wear out the front shocks/springs faster due to over compressing them
all together its not a good combination
If you want it to last you better start over
just the Ironman springs and if you want more a 1/4 inch top plate and 3/8 inch clevis is all
that will net you 3.75 inches of lift and no CV issues etc

Trust us, its been tried by a few ( even after being told it wouldn't work) but who thought they would show us it could, never good results

Hope you didn't buy new tires :wink:
Author:  MaxA [ Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Saggy Old Libby
oh ok. the spacer lift is not a daystar style lift, it bolts on the top of the strut mounts and extends them 2 inches. I did machine the axles down 3/8in in my shop when I pulled them out. i dont have any vibration in 4 wheel peel but i will check them for play when i get home. Thanks for the help! What is the fender height at 3.75in?

oh and yes i did re gear to 4.56 back when I went to 31s because i tow either my boat or my other jeep quite a bit and live in the mountains. (2700ft elevation difference in my 18 mile drive to work)
Author:  tommudd [ Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Saggy Old Libby
Doesn't matter if it is a Daystar or any other spacer style lift, all the same
it's still going to cause issues with the springs
fender height for a 3.75 inch lift is 22.75 middle of wheel to bottom of flare

Didn't know you had swapped out the D30a for a steel front diff in it

The lift you have is the same one I use for a door stop in the garage
guy gave it to me after he went through 2 sets of UCAs in less than 9 months
running that exact lift, also had springs / shocks replaced 3 times
finally gave up sold me the ARB bumper for a couple of hundred bucks and gave up trying to have a lifted Liberty. That was back in 2005. I knew better though :wink:
Author:  JeepMorrison [ Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Saggy Old Libby
Be intresting to see your measurements for the lift.....

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Author:  tommudd [ Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Saggy Old Libby
From what I know from past "experiments"
and how the Ironman are after install plus the 2.5 inch spacer and the way it looks
My guess is 24.25
Author:  Jeeper4life [ Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Saggy Old Libby
Your Jeep looks kinda nice with no front fender flares! Is that your cherokee too in the background?
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