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 Post subject: Arb or RL Front bumper???
PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:45 pm 
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Wanting to know the perks of each. Right now an Arb is ordered but i am about to cancel that and order a Rl because of It sitting closer to the jeep without modification. I am wanting to know more about each though. I have an 02 so it would have to have the raised outer sections on the RL monitor

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 Post subject: Re: Arb or RL Front bumper???
PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:55 pm 
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i would go with the ARB the RL's look ok but my thing would be airbag compliant

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 Post subject: Re: Arb or RL Front bumper???
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the rl is not airbag compliant? i think the arb looks much nicer.
personally i think the rl doesnt look right to me for the 02-04. it just looks like some crap attached to a bumper that belongs on something else.


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jamesdart wrote:
the rl is not airbag compliant? i think the arb looks much nicer.
personally i think the rl doesnt look right to me for the 02-04. it just looks like some crap attached to a bumper that belongs on something else.


you hit the nail on the head the RL looks good on 05 and later models. if you dont plan on having a winch

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 Post subject: Re: Arb or RL Front bumper???
PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:23 pm 
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Both are air bag compliant guiyys. The arb just has crimp zones. The air bags run off inertia sensors I believe so the bumper doesn't make a difference. The only thing I have on the arb is that it sticks out so darn far. Prerunner style addons are being developed for the convertible rl bumper as it says on rock lizards webpage

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 Post subject: Re: Arb or RL Front bumper???
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ARB allows for the winch to be installed inside the bumper, giving a lower profile and less air restriction to the radiator.

The RL bumpers that I've seen have the winch mounted on top of the bumper, blocking a lot of airflow for the radiator.

Having the winch mounted inside the bumper is why the ARB kicks out farther in front.

Granted, you have to stick with a brand name winch such as Warn or Smittybilt with an ARB, but you won't have
to worry about possible overheating issues with the high mounted winch on an RL bumper.

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jamesdart wrote:
the rl is not airbag compliant? i think the arb looks much nicer.
personally i think the rl doesnt look right to me for the 02-04. it just looks like some crap attached to a bumper that belongs on something else.


New ones / designs haven't been released yet

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NewOldTimer wrote:
ARB allows for the winch to be installed inside the bumper, giving a lower profile and less air restriction to the radiator.

The RL bumpers that I've seen have the winch mounted on top of the bumper, blocking a lot of airflow for the radiator.

Having the winch mounted inside the bumper is why the ARB kicks out farther in front.

Granted, you have to stick with a brand name winch such as Warn or Smittybilt with an ARB, but you won't have
to worry about possible overheating issues with the high mounted winch on an RL bumper.


If you look at 90% of the Wrangler winches they sit in front of the radiator and they have no issues. Also we throw lights etc on the ARB blocking airflow somewhat anyways

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 Post subject: Re: Arb or RL Front bumper???
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The airbag sensor is mounted to the front of the vehicle on a upright support. Both ARB and RL's are mounted in a very similar fashion, if either one of them are involved in an accident severe enough for airbag deployment they will both accomplish the same thing. ARB being "airbag compliant" only means they have tons of money to throw at testing and smash a few KJ's at a certified testing facility. RL doesn't have that luxury of being able to toss money for a silly certification. I myself would put any RL bumper against an ARB any day...........


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 Post subject: Re: Arb or RL Front bumper???
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NewOldTimer wrote:
ARB allows for the winch to be installed inside the bumper, giving a lower profile and less air restriction to the radiator.

The RL bumpers that I've seen have the winch mounted on top of the bumper, blocking a lot of airflow for the radiator.

Having the winch mounted inside the bumper is why the ARB kicks out farther in front.

Granted, you have to stick with a brand name winch such as Warn or Smittybilt with an ARB, but you won't have
to worry about possible overheating issues with the high mounted winch on an RL bumper.

I have an oil cooler and am putting in the hd cooling the later models have.

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 Post subject: Re: Arb or RL Front bumper???
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tommudd wrote:
jamesdart wrote:
the rl is not airbag compliant? i think the arb looks much nicer.
personally i think the rl doesnt look right to me for the 02-04. it just looks like some crap attached to a bumper that belongs on something else.


New ones / designs haven't been released yet

oh so they have something that look better coming out?


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 Post subject: Re: Arb or RL Front bumper???
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jamesdart wrote:
tommudd wrote:
jamesdart wrote:
the rl is not airbag compliant? i think the arb looks much nicer.
personally i think the rl doesnt look right to me for the 02-04. it just looks like some crap attached to a bumper that belongs on something else.


New ones / designs haven't been released yet

oh so they have something that look better coming out?


Instead of plate metal corners they are said to be tube corners/wings. I am interested in seeing how they account for the gap on the 02-04 with the tube style corners.

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