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 Post subject: 2002 kj lift ? S
PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:39 pm 
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I just purchased a 2002 jeep liberty sport and I wanna lift it. I want at least three inches would like 4 but I hear u can't go 31/2 or 4 without changing cutting the axles cvs...i cannot afford 3000 for a jeepnbyal.com lift although it seems nice. Anyone have other ideas or have achieved this amount any other way? Combos etc?? I also would like to run a bf goodrich all terrain ta 265 70 16 on a 16x7 pro comp steel wheel with 4 inch backspace I don't want to trim the inner or bumper. Any ideas as I am new but have been doing a lot of research before I start modifying.


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 Post subject: Re: 2002 kj lift ? S
PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:59 pm 
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I have an 02 as well believe me save your money and do the iron man lift with the jba a-arms. All things considered your suspension is toast and your upper ball joints are toast too.

Tried a spacer list on mine and took it off.

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 Post subject: Re: 2002 kj lift ? S
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What is the Ironman lift? And is the spacer lift that bad? Anyone else have other ideas? Tell me what u are running.


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Please read the section on lifts, most questions are answered there.

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 Post subject: Re: 2002 kj lift ? S
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kuntryboy99 wrote:
What is the Ironman lift? And is the spacer lift that bad? Anyone else have other ideas? Tell me what u are running.


Ironman is a manufacturer of lifts, just like OME
Both are sold by jeepinbyal ( not all of his lifts are 2-3000) :wink:
Both give you more than the advertised height of 1.5 inches
Both are good lifts
Spacer lifts are a waste especially on a 12 year old vehicle with weak springs to begin with

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:54 pm 
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What he said ^

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 Post subject: Re: 2002 kj lift ? S
PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:11 pm 
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Basically I want at least 3 inches if not 4...i read the lift section. Doesn'ttalk about axles? Or did I miss it?


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 Post subject: Re: 2002 kj lift ? S
PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:24 pm 
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3 inches of lift is easy
4 inches =$$$$$
simple as that
3 inches do OME springs/ shocks and a top plate in front and one extra upper isolator in the rear and there you are , can stay with the original upper control arms
3.5 inches you'll need the jeepinbyal upper control arms so add those in, also will need to do a 3/8 inch clevis and another extra isolator in the rear , so you've went from 800-825 to 1100-1200
4 inches will need to go to the adjustable coilover plus the JBA UCAs since if you try and go that far with OME or Ironman springs you'll have UCA/spring contact in the front
Axles or do you mean CVs ? If CVs then they are fine at 3-3.5 inches of lift no problems.
Plus running 265-70s 3-3.5 of lift is fine and no need to regear right away

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:56 pm 
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Being an 02 I'm sure yours is sitting somewhat lower than new stock
more like the silver one here pictured ( John3:16s before lift and very weak springs)
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Now here is his with full spring lift at about 3.5 inches of lift and about the same height tires you'd have in the 265-70-16s
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Thank you for the awesome replies guys...whomever posted the pics the black jeep is exactly the height I want mine and same size tire roughly. I'd this the one you are talking about or the silver one?


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How do u post pics in here?


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kuntryboy99 wrote:
Thank you for the awesome replies guys...whomever posted the pics the black jeep is exactly the height I want mine and same size tire roughly. I'd this the one you are talking about or the silver one?



Mine is the black one ,
You said you wanted 265-70-16 tires and 3-3.5 inches of lift, which is what I was telling you about and showing you on the silver one
Mine is above that in lift and you'll need more $$$$ dollarsfor lift, need to regear to 4.10s etc
for example to replicate mine
Lift $2800.00 or more depending on which one you choose
upper control arms $400.00
regear $1200.00 or so at least
$4400.00 right there

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http://www.cardomain.com/ridepost/11797 ... p-liberty/

tommudd this is how I want mine to look...says he has 4 inches


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kuntryboy99 wrote:
http://www.cardomain.com/ridepost/1179763/2003-jeep-liberty/

tommudd this is how I want mine to look...says he has 4 inches


you mean this one ? :lol: :lol: :lol:
The one parked behind mine in this picture
Belongs to one of my good friends, his has been in my garage several times
and he has not quite 4 inches of lift, has 4.10 gears etc
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Tommudd yes that is the one...I love how that one looks with those tires n wheels n lift. It's an awesome looking Libby.


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 Post subject: Re: 2002 kj lift ? S
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well
$1400 plus for lift / upper control arms etc for a 3.75 inch lift
then like mentioned 1200 plus for a regear
then tires ( running same kind and size as mine) / wheels

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and the lift he has is basically what I had mentioned above before
and you'll need to stay that height so you don't have contact between the upper control arms and springs ( even with the JBA arms )

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Ty tommudd Do u know what setup he has? In some of the pics the tires are 265 70 16 bf goodrich ta. Do I NEED to regear? Also in some of his pics I see a coil over and a UCA n front and a spring in back.


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kuntryboy99 wrote:
Ty tommudd Do u know what setup he has? In some of the pics the tires are 265 70 16 bf goodrich ta. Do I NEED to regear? Also in some of his pics I see a coil over and a UCA n front and a spring in back.


He ran 265-70-16 Treadwrights for a while before they started blowing out
then went to 265-75-16 Goodyear Duratracs
His setup is the normal setup we do on all of them here at my place
OME springs/ OME shocks , 1/4 inch top plate and 3/8 inch clevis in front
rear two extra upper isolators
Yes he is regeared Do you need to? If you stay at 245-75-16 or 265-70-16 you don't have to but know going in you will lose some power and mileage if you don't If you go with 265-75-16s then yes you need to regear

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here are a couple of examples on mine
Normal front setup, this is the Ironman springs and shocks shown here along with JeepinByAls upper control arms ( so you know what they look like )
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This is the adjustable coilover setup from JeepinByAl
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