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| Author: | WhitbyKJ [ Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Debunking a top plate/stud myth (Taurus wheel stud) |
So I went to the wreckers today, me and my sledge hammer. Spent some time knocking out what looked liked brand new wheel studs. I spent most of my time in the ford section. I also brought with me, my digital caliper. The very first vehicle I tried was the Taurus. Man that is a giant stud. 56 mm long. The taper is .534 inches and the knurl diameter is .553 Didn't fit my top plate. So I tried the focus/escort of various years 90's to 00's.. I didn't measure te length, but they look a tad bit longer than stock top plate length. The knurl diameter was .536 They fit. (Top plate hole measured ~ .533) they will press in. So I got to looking around at other stuff. I saw a dodge caravan (rofl that I scooped the headlight bulbs out of) the stud looked like it was like an 1 3/4" long. I didn't measure it, but after knocking it out and trying it in my top plate, I would say it is a SnugIsh fit, weld in for sure. Then there was the trailblazer... Fml. Two inch long studs. Also a weld in fit, felt like there was 10 thousands slop in the top plate tho. Why would you need a 2 inch Long top plate stud, I dunno. The chev was there, and so was my hammer. So I hit it. Other vehicles I tried were (no fits): Various Lincoln's Mercury cougar Towncar Mustang Probe Liberty (we have massive studs by comparison FYI) Ranger. Checking out at the counter, buddy asked what I was paying for. I told him I had three heaping pockets of wheel studs from different vehicles. He charged me ten bucks. I took some pictures while I was out. You guys lemme know if you want pics of vehicles and stud comparisons. |
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| Author: | WhitbyKJ [ Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Debunking a top plate/stud myth (Taurus wheel stud) |
Forgot to mention, I tried a 97 Taurus, v8, m12x1.5 stud from a dealership (which are discontinued item btw) and the shoulder didn't even make it through the plate, let alone the knurl. |
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| Author: | JeepMorrison [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Debunking a top plate/stud myth (Taurus wheel stud) |
Instead of all that trouble, just use some 7/16 grade 8 bolts with a tack weld. Its pretty much the same thing JBA uses on his coilovers. |
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| Author: | WhitbyKJ [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Debunking a top plate/stud myth (Taurus wheel stud) |
Oh. From the picture I saw he used some button heads. If it were me, making the strut mount. I would grab 10.9, m12x1.5x55 button heads, then tap the plate and thread the button head through. Done. The stock nuts are metric. I dunno... I am still recovering from kk diff swap. |
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| Author: | WhitbyKJ [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Debunking a top plate/stud myth (Taurus wheel stud) |
How did you get a 4 inch ironman lift? Share the wealth (info) so I can copy you :p
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| Author: | tommudd [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Debunking a top plate/stud myth (Taurus wheel stud) |
The very first Ironman that was out I had and tried, sit it up at 4 inches Its been on " 501s" KJ ever since and still is at I think around 3.75 inches ( after it settled in ) Just used the normal tricks of clevis, top plate ( no Daystar top plate  ) and also boosted the spring rate
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| Author: | JeepMorrison [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Debunking a top plate/stud myth (Taurus wheel stud) |
WhitbyKJ wrote: How did you get a 4 inch ironman lift? Share the wealth (info) so I can copy you :ptommudd wrote: The very first Ironman that was out I had and tried, sit it up at 4 inches Its been on " 501s" KJ ever since and still is at I think around 3.75 inches ( after it settled in ) Just used the normal tricks of clevis, top plate ( no Daystar top plate ) and also boosted the spring rateWell kinda. my bumper/winch sagged it down to 3.5" so i had to get something that was .375" longer than what came factory and reduced a little clevis. Boom 4". And i could still go up a little more. And the studs, it dosent matter if they are metric or standard, button head, allen head, or hex head. Its not being threaded into the body, all it does is slide in and gets bolted down. |
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| Author: | tommudd [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Debunking a top plate/stud myth (Taurus wheel stud) |
By the way the title is wrong, Taurus wheel studs do work, I know of at least two people that used them worked find pressed right up in
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| Author: | JeepMorrison [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Debunking a top plate/stud myth (Taurus wheel stud) |
tommudd wrote: By the way the title is wrong, Taurus wheel studs do work, I know of at least two people that used them worked find pressed right up in I can confirm, i have the on my OME setup. |
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| Author: | tommudd [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Debunking a top plate/stud myth (Taurus wheel stud) |
4x4kayak2112 wrote: tommudd wrote: By the way the title is wrong, Taurus wheel studs do work, I know of at least two people that used them worked find pressed right up in I can confirm, i have the on my OME setup. OK now I know of 3, that's three, ..... or four minus one
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| Author: | WhitbyKJ [ Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Debunking a top plate/stud myth (Taurus wheel stud) |
Well I tried pressing 97 Taurus v8 studs, brand new, from a dealership, into my moog top plate (in prep to ditch the daystar) and they were too big. By about ~.040" . That's almost a 1/16 of an inch. Sure I could plowed them in there for all it's worth, but it would have buggered the top plate. |
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| Author: | JeepMorrison [ Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Debunking a top plate/stud myth (Taurus wheel stud) |
Just use grade 8 bolts. |
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| Author: | JeepMorrison [ Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Debunking a top plate/stud myth (Taurus wheel stud) |
Wait.....didnt the new moogs come with studs? |
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| Author: | WhitbyKJ [ Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Debunking a top plate/stud myth (Taurus wheel stud) |
When I tried my daystar top plate thinger, the studs were supposed to be press fit into the new one... Daystar QA must have taken the day off... The were sloppier than... Use your imagination. So I welded em in. Now I need new bolts/studs. I got a total of 24 studs from my trip to the wreckers. |
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| Author: | John3:17 [ Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Debunking a top plate/stud myth (Taurus wheel stud) |
Could be that Moog is different than factory |
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| Author: | WhitbyKJ [ Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Debunking a top plate/stud myth (Taurus wheel stud) |
Could be. Then if that is the case. The title of this thread is wrong. |
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