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 Post subject: Re: CRD or not
PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:59 pm 
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geordi wrote:
Or they have been driven insane by their new Italian mistress and she drove them to drink themselves to death. This is also a possibility.

Removing the EGR prior to purchase will not be possible. It (and all of its components) are buried at the back of the engine to greatly discourage tampering and removal.

I don't know what the story is with the soot in both my CRD engines. The EGR was disabled from the first week I owned it (starting at 30k miles) and lost engine #1 at 60k. I got the GDE eco tune with engine #2 which also had 60k miles on it, EGR remained disabled.

When I tore down engine #1 to scrap it (because the damned mechanic left it SITTING OUT IN THE RAIN for 2 months after I told them to save it for me to rebuild! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: ) there weren't any signs of oil plugging in the crank area, and the passages all seemed generally clean. The bearings however, had obviously been badly overheated and were in varying stages of melting out of their bores.

Engine #2 has not been torn down yet, the new owner says he will do this, and believes that it may be possible to return that block to operation. At least we will get to know what happened... Maybe.

My new vehicle is a 2003 TDI with 244k on it when I bought it, and BONE STOCK. The intake was not plugged (amazing) and the oil was black as coal dust. I promptly obtained a "racepipe" to remove / plug / disable the EGR, and changed the oil. After the first oil change, the oil remains translucent throughout the oil change life, and nearly clear on the dipstick for (a guess) about a thousand miles. This NEVER happened with the CRD, for reasons that I still do not understand. Two different engines, two different oil systems in those engines... No change in results.
Others on here have lost the bottom end of their engines as well, so this is not just an isolated problem with my engines.


geordi didn't you tow a 7000 pound generator around with the CRD.


A couple times, total mileage was maybe 200 miles. I also pulled my 7.5x20 box trailer - fully loaded @ 7000 lbs (scaled) for about 50 miles or so.

Your point? The CRD in exactly the same mechanical setup as the North American model is rated in Europe for pulling (IIRC) 3500 kg - 7700 lbs. The limiting factor wasn't so much the engine that had PLENTY of power for that big generator, it is the wind resistance and the capability of the braking. The loading and tongue weight also could be a limiting factor, but the handling was great. I should mention that I wasn't expecting the CRD to drive and handle like it wasn't towing anything, and I reduced my speeds and increased the stopping distance accordingly. The CRD performed admirably.

The other big problem with blaming the towing for anything? The towing all happened many thousands of miles before any failure.

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 Post subject: Re: CRD or not
PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:32 pm 
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well just bad luck then. I always try to find a reason for problems. Maybe a lemon in both motors. But 7000 pound loaded is heavy for the crd.


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 Post subject: Re: CRD or not
PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:33 am 
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I'm all about finding solutions too. No harm in asking, you aren't doing anything that I haven't already done many times.

As for the weight being a heavy load for the CRD - it was within the ratings of the European CRD, which is exactly the same vehicle that is sold in the USA. The TDI is subject to the same silliness - The Euro sold units of the Jetta TDI are rated to pull 1441 kg (over 3000 lbs) and this is on a vehicle that has just a 1.9 liter engine. What does the USA rating for the same say? just 1000 lbs, OR direct from VW: We did not design this vehicle for towing and do not recommend any towing.

The USA ratings are often written by lawyers or marketing people that would be MUCH happier if you (the buyer) was to purchase another vehicle for towing: A truck that is bigger / heavier and comes with a much higher price and profit margin.

I just got done pulling a 5x10 box with my 03 Jetta. This trailer weighs around 1000 empty, and I probably had about another 500 or so in it. Was the mileage great? No, it sucked. But the TDI is a very capable puller. The point is, the Euro market insists on actual tests for a vehicle in what it is capable of handling. If a vehicle cannot tow, it most likely will not be a strong seller in their marketplace. Since the rating is based on that testing, I trust the Euro ratings more than I trust the made-by-gunshy-lawyer ratings of the US.

YMMV. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: CRD or not
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:40 am 
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Regarding an above post about oil not cleaning up after a GDE tune, I believe someone posted the most likely reason a while back. . . blowby.

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