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i dont think it could run 13's with those tires on it and the lift kit, and why would propane make it any faster? and how much boost do our turbos put out stock?




No way. Not even 14s. It is a dog folks. Want to race....get something made for racing.
The CRD is a great vehicle, and does many tasks well, but it is not the be-all end-all, and it's no drag racer. Sorry. I know what it takes to get 105mph traps; it's called horsepower.

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I haven't done the 1/4 mile run yet, but I have reached 112 miles an hour on a straight away with no problems and i know the engine can do more, the body is not made for racing but if it were,...... lookout.

She's quick and makes heads turn.

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I haven't done the 1/4 mile run yet, but I have reached 112 miles an hour on a straight away with no problems and i know the engine can do more, the body is not made for racing but if it were,...... lookout.

She's quick and makes heads turn.
Yes, but to do that in a 1/4 mile stretch takes a little more than she's got. 4500-5000 pounds needs 400 hp for a 105 mph trap.

http://www.ajdesigner.com/phphorsepower ... epower.php

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yes.... I am waiting to do the 1/4 test correctly..... setting it up correctly that is.

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I haven't done the 1/4 mile run yet, but I have reached 112 miles an hour on a straight away with no problems and i know the engine can do more, the body is not made for racing but if it were,...... lookout.

She's quick and makes heads turn.
Yes, but to do that in a 1/4 mile stretch takes a little more than she's got. 4500-5000 pounds needs 400 hp for a 105 mph trap.

http://www.ajdesigner.com/phphorsepower ... epower.php



So you're saying a Ram 2500 with 300 HP and 810 lb./ft. of torque couldn't hit 105 in the quarter? :roll:


In my opinion, this CRD pulls harder than any gas SUV I've been in. This is especially true at high speed because in 4th and 5th gear when gas vehicles run out of steam...the diesel is back in it's sweet spot.

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All i know is at the lights i don't hesitate to race any Japanese vehicle or V-6 that pulls up beside me. And i know how this thing pulls off the line and most people are caught by complete suprise to see a 2 ton SUV getting them off the line. Or boiling the rear tires off of it with a big cloud of black and white smoke. Can't wait for the GDE turbo upgrade but lift and tires first.

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LibertyCRD wrote:
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I haven't done the 1/4 mile run yet, but I have reached 112 miles an hour on a straight away with no problems and i know the engine can do more, the body is not made for racing but if it were,...... lookout.

She's quick and makes heads turn.
Yes, but to do that in a 1/4 mile stretch takes a little more than she's got. 4500-5000 pounds needs 400 hp for a 105 mph trap.

http://www.ajdesigner.com/phphorsepower ... epower.php



So you're saying a Ram 2500 with 300 HP and 810 lb./ft. of torque couldn't hit 105 in the quarter? :roll:




I don't know if he is saying it or not, But I'll say it. It just won't happen, not with just 300 HP.

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i dont think it could run 13's with those tires on it and the lift kit, and why would propane make it any faster? and how much boost do our turbos put out stock?




No way. Not even 14s. It is a dog folks. Want to race....get something made for racing.
The CRD is a great vehicle, and does many tasks well, but it is not the be-all end-all, and it's no drag racer. Sorry. I know what it takes to get 105mph traps; it's called horsepower.




Exactly. That's about what my 2007 Mustang GT will do the 1/4 in, and there isn't a CRD made that can beat it. Stock for stock that is. Someone's livin in la la land.

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 Post subject: Re: 13.21 1/4 mile time?
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to put a little perspective on things...
This is a 6000lbs + SUV with 570HP and 550 Tq(un-tuned @ the wheels) running 11.4 1/4mile
Probably close to 20k in motor upgrades.

Do you still think the CRD can pull a 13?

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I don't know if he is saying it or not, But I'll say it. It just won't happen, not with just 300 HP.[/quote]


Well some of you guys need to visit the drag strips here in KY then...because we've got "low" horsepower but high torque pickup trucks smoking sports cars on a daily basis. Horsepower is over-rated. In the real world, things are a little different sometimes than they are on paper. :roll:

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I don't know if he is saying it or not, But I'll say it. It just won't happen, not with just 300 HP.



Well some of you guys need to visit the drag strips here in KY then...because we've got "low" horsepower but high torque pickup trucks smoking sports cars on a daily basis. Horsepower is over-rated. In the real world, things are a little different sometimes than they are on paper. :roll:

Is is more then just HP or Torque that determines what you can do on the drag strip.A big one is traction and gearing.The driver has alot to do with it also.


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THis is very true 4.10 gears are really built for for straight line speed and having a heavy transfer case in there also doesn't help. And low end torque is great for bottom end but our transmission just are built to be fast in the upper gears.

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From one of my recent magazines:

"But not long after he bought his Dodge, Kevin decided to modify it a bit with the basic programmer, intake, exhaust, and transmission upgrades. To his surprise, the Ram ran high 12-second quarter-mile times, roasting imports and Mustangs in the process."

Programmed ECU, intake, exhaust, and tranny upgrades? That's it? That's basic stuff that even we Jeep owners all have. Nothing hardcore here at all. And the dude was running high 12s in a 6,700 lb. truck.

I'm tellin' ya'....the torque from a diesel engine will surprise you if you're used to gas engine. Twisting force is what turns the tires. 8) I think a lot of diesel powered stuff gets overlooked in the performance world.

I'm not saying this OP really ran 13s.. but to say the entire game depends on horsepower alone is plain wrong.

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Well some of you guys need to visit the drag strips here in KY then...because we've got "low" horsepower but high torque pickup trucks smoking sports cars on a daily basis. Horsepower is over-rated. In the real world, things are a little different sometimes than they are on paper. :roll:
You are funny. "Horsepower is over-rated". Not it's not. It's called physics, and just because you have some really amazing torque, it will not get you to 105mph in 13 seconds. Stop bench racing and get to the strip - it has a way of bringing reality home.

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I don't know if he is saying it or not, But I'll say it. It just won't happen, not with just 300 HP.[/quote]


Well some of you guys need to visit the drag strips here in KY then...because we've got "low" horsepower but high torque pickup trucks smoking sports cars on a daily basis. Horsepower is over-rated. In the real world, things are a little different sometimes than they are on paper. :roll:[/quote]



OMG! I'm not even believing you said that. I've been to my share of tracks, and I own both a CRD and a GT and it just isn't there. Sorry.

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Funny how these drag threads always end up like this one.

The bottom line: There is nothing wrong with improving the performance of your ride...whether it be a Camero or a CRD. Numbers do matter...HP/Torque/Weight and so on...you can't ignore them. And the most important quantitative factor: Drag Strip Results

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Funny how these drag threads always end up like this one.

The bottom line: There is nothing wrong with improving the performance of your ride...whether it be a Camero or a CRD. Numbers do matter...HP/Torque/Weight and so on...you can't ignore them. And the most important quantitative factor: Drag Strip Results




DW, I'm pleased you included your strip times in your sig. Perhaps we can close this one out. Yes, anything can be made to be fast. Power to weight ratios can't be ignored when aerodynamics and other factors are figured in.

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LibertyCRD: this info may help you to understand the relationship of HP and torque. be sure to do the math. http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Miscellaneo ... PSpeed.htm

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