You don't get your own diesel models?


Wow. That's...perplexing. I thought your president now was going bonkers over fuel conservation?

He might be... But sadly we still have a marketplace of "American" (Built in Mexico or China) car makers who are solidly CONVINCED that selling diesels in the USA is pants.

Add to that, the "environmental protection agency" that insists on focusing on carbon dioxide (since they obviously fixed everything else!) SOLELY from moving vehicles and creating new and horrible methods of forcing these vehicles to burn MORE fuel, in some quest to make LESS emissions FROM that fuel.

It is government logic, what can we say.

Meanwhile, the EPA completely fails to do ANYTHING about even a single coal-fired power plant, which has been established NUMEROUS times that if just a single coal-fired plant was shut down, it would equal the CO2 output of removing 3 MILLION cars from the road. FYI: almost 50% of the power in the USA comes from coal fired power plants. In addition, many of these powerstations (of any fuel) are sending power so far from their location, that 90% of the energy is lost in the transmission lines.

But remember - Diesels are evil and stinky and dirty and destroy small animals. So Sayeth The American Auto Industry.

Yet when Chrysler ACTUALLY decided to do a "marketing experiment" (with NO marketing, imagine that!) by selling the CRD that they had been building in OHIO for 2 years... Actually selling it HERE... Every single one they made sold. Even to the point that possibly MORE sold than they originally wanted to produce.

But it was a sales failure, remember that.

What's that flavor? Oh right... Bile and irony. I guess I should stop now.

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NO please keep going because the way i see it the american auto industry is leaving the possibilities of the small diesel market in the hands of a small Indian company. Who just got the green light from almost everyone to come to america and start building. Which is total BS because i know of quite a few motor that i would like to see in say and F150, Ram, Tundra, 1500 and all of them have one that would work prefectly in them. Ford even has a small PowerStroke V6 in some of there new delivery style trucks. Not saying i would give up my jeep to have one of these but to have that option open when i decide to buy a truck would be nice. AND COME ON 2012 CAN'T GET HERE QUICK ENOUGH. And as for our Jeeps not being quick what i was getting at earlier is i will put my Jeep up against any vehical of similar size with 4x4 and i will come out on top atleast 75% of the time. And remember this is america straight line is where it counts most over here and the Mercury Scorpio would have no chance against it.

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I think you would need to look at the percent reductions in emissions vs the percent reductions in MPG to make an accurate comparison. IE, if you cut emissions in half, but that results in halving your MPG as well, then the net result seems to be the same from an emissions stand point. Yes, your costs would increase too. I think this example works, but honestly I didn't think about for very long.

umm.. I don't think any of this is correct at all. Lots of studies have been shown that electric vehicles getting there power from the grid (transportation energy change from gasoline to electricity) is more efficient and produces less emissions then using gasoline.

http://greenterrafirma.com/wordpress/el ... -gasoline/

there are better resources, but this is the first thing that I found. I found some more

http://energy.typepad.com/the-energy-bl ... -cars.html

http://www.sherryboschert.com/Downloads ... 5B9%5D.pdf

The EPA has a lot of restrictions on coal plants btw. They are much cleaner then they used to be, just like cars.
I have no idea where your 90% of the energy is lost in the transmission lines comment comes from. It is actually the other way around, it is 10% of the energy is lost. If 90% was lost, you would not be seeing the generation locations so far away from the load centers.

any response from geordi

Bottom line is Americans are quite stupid about diesel engines. Americans are quite stupid about cars in general. VW has long produced diesels that out-perform many gassers with almost incredible economy. There is just not much interest here. Given sufficient interest, Detroit would listen and we'd get the engine/trans combinations we want.

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Mate, everybody is quite stupid about cars in general.

BMW have polled 1 series owners across the world and something like 75 percent of them think their car is front wheel drive

I wonder if this is due to the fact that the world has gotten so dang complicated, that our capacity to understand a lot of subjects at some significant depth is being reduced, or maybe more importantly deemed unneeded.

Social commentary off..

I think our main issue is that we do not have enough back yard mechanics left. Because of this people just dont care enough about cars they just pick a nice looking one and buy one. So no one learns about all the diesel options because they dont care unless it shows up on tv. And over here the only thing that shows up on tv that is diesel are our larger series trucks. And everyone thinks the only way to get huge gas mileage numbers here is Hybrids. Which is funny b/c even the old diesel Rabbits where pushing 40+ mpg lets see a Camery do that. And plus by the time one of these so called Hybrids are build how much fuel was used to actually create the dang thing. Oh and lets not forget operating life of said batteries only 10 years and diesel motors will run 500 to 1 million miles alot more then 10 years.

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Mercedes Benz has been the leader in diesel engines for automobiles.

1936: Mercedes-Benz built the 260D diesel car. AT&SF inaugurated the diesel train Super Chief. The airship Hindenburg was powered by diesel engines. First series of passenger cars manufactured with diesel engine (Mercedes-Benz 260 D, Hanomag and Saurer). Daimler Benz airship diesel engine 602LOF6 for the LZ129 Hindenburg airship.

Cummings and Packard seems to have built the first passenger car with a diesel. So that would make the US as the leader in passenger car development. Americans are still wearing blinders when it comes to diesel cars. There are so many cars manufactured in the US with diesel engines but are not sold here.

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I'd be happy to run you in my other little SUV. It's just an '04 Forester XT with some goodies... It's all in good fun. I love the CRD for towing, but love the FXT for sporty driving.

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Lets see the Subaru do it with my 245/70/17 and if you really want to go at it i got a buddy who has been wanting to hook propane up to my libby for awhile. And the other thing is not really and SUV on the same level as the libby more rally car then full on SUV. No offense ment there I have driven many a WRX and loved them all nothing like a full four wheel drift.

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That's exactly what I'm saying.

However, had I still either my Cossie or my Evo, I'd be more than happy to run you...loser pays shipping

I have slalomed my KJ in Germany and beat a Golf GTI with it. I have run it on the Nuerburgring and rung a 11:52 with it and heavy traffic and pushing only about 80% and heavy drifting in the corners. None of the tracks here in th eUS will let me drive it on their tracks and tell me that it is due to insurance reasons. Hopefully I will get this job back in Germany and I can try out the new lift and wider stand and break into the 10 min's with it on the Ring. Check my avatar, that is the Jeep on the Ring.

BTW I have always loved the YB and wish I had bought one when I was living in Europe.

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04 forrester... you have got to be kidding. If you're not kidding, then your ignorance is showing.

Stop driving the beast like Girlie men. You guys drive your CRD's gingerly, you need to punch the pedal to the metal and see how quickly she reaches top speed (110 to 120 or more) and then repost back.

If your Turbo is clean and working properly, you should have no problem reaching top speed.

If you have never punched your turbo then it's probably clogged and will throw a turbo overboost or underboost code and your vehicle will go into limp mode.

Turn the key off and on again to temporarily get out of limp mode, you will need a scanner to turn the engine light off and then you should begin the process of blowing the gunk out of the turbo by punching it from a dead stop while on an incline.

Take her out for a spin and make sure to change the oil and filter.

Post back when you know what you're talking about.

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Ahhh, internet racing....

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2006 Liberty Limited CRD, Deep Beryl Green, Yeti tune, Arp studs, new cams, rockers, lifters, TB. "Green Monster"
2005 Liberty Sport CRD, Deep Beryl Green, GDE Hot Tune, ARP studs. "Rocket"
1982 Fiat 124 Spider Convertible. "Fiona"

No internet racing on my part. I can back up anything I post.

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An old base model Rabbit Diesel weighed 1800 pounds, had NO power brakes (early models), power windows, power locks, alarm system, ABS , air bags, cruise control, rear wiper, rust proofing, sound deadening, passenger side mirror, air conditioning, emission requirements and most of all NO POWER and the list goes on. I loved them too but...

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While it may sound silly to even mention, for a long time (and for all I know maybe still) the highest top speed powertrain in the Chrysler minivan family was, you guessed it, the 5-speed manual 2.5L VM. I was once riding shotgun in a 300M on the big track at TRC in Ohio. We pulled out and started to accelerate when of all things, a minivan blew by at who knows what speed. The TRC mechanic with us challenged us to try to catch up to it. We couldn't.

Man I wish we could buy some of the interesting stuff we make...

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