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Author:  WWV [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Time to Replace tires?
It's almost time to replace the factory tires on my 06 and I'm wondering what everyone is finding is best for their next set. I want a decent all weather tire. I do a lot of highway travel but make a once or twice a week run up the canyons for skiing during winter.

* I want to stay original size....what are my options?

Misc question...

Also, I've heard rumors over the years that the tires that come with new vehicles are softer than the same make/model tires if you buy them after market. The reason being that the automakers(in cahoots with tire manufacturers) want you to have a softer ride and hence, buy the vehicle. This coupled with the dealer under-inflating keeps ride nice and soft for test ride!

Has anyone purchased exact same tires for replacement and found any difference? I read on this forum quite a bit about the OEM tires being crap....just wondering if this is just a "soft" tire or really true.

Thanks in advance!

WWV
'06 Silver Sport
Author:  RFCRD [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Time to Replace tires?
WWV wrote:
* I want to stay original size....what are my options?

You will get much better handling and more tire choices if you wide-size to 245/70/16. Has almost identical rev/mile as the factory 225/75/16, just wider and no rubbing issues on factory ride height. Replaced mine with Firestone Destination LE's in 245/70/16 (also available in 225/75/16). Made a world of difference and relatively cheap compared to many products.
Author:  Cowcatcher [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:23 pm ]
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I am not an expert but there are a lot here who are. I did change my OEM's out recently to Toyo Open County AT's 245/70-16, a size up. I had miles to go on my OEM's but I drive at least 2 miles a day on improved gravel roads and I had flats all the time with them because they are paper thin. I also had a blow out on the right inner sidewall tha Goodyear would not cover under warranty.

My experince with the larger, heavier Toyos is mixed. The truck seems to handle a lot better and doesn't wallow in the corners so much. Although they are slightly taller the 6.5% odometer error is now only 5%, it should have gone the other way. I am guessing that with the 38 > 40 PSI I was running on the OEMS they were actually larger when inflated. My mileage has taken a nose dive though by about 2>3 MPG. The basket on the roof, very hot weather with air going and too much stop and go related to extensive summer road construction are likely also contributing factors there though.

I am sure that tissue paper tires are great for mileage but never go off pavement and make sure the NASCAR track sweepers are driving in front of you.
Author:  BlackLibertyCRD [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:28 pm ]
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Cowcatcher wrote:
I am not an expert but there are a lot here who are. I did change my OEM's out recently to Toyo Open County AT's 245/70-16, a size up. I had miles to go on my OEM's but I drive at least 2 miles a day on improved gravel roads and I had flats all the time with them because they are paper thin. I also had a blow out on the right inner sidewall tha Goodyear would not cover under warranty.

My experince with the larger, heavier Toyos is mixed. The truck seems to handle a lot better and doesn't wallow in the corners so much. Although they are slightly taller the 6.5% odometer error is now only 5%, it should have gone the other way. I am guessing that with the 38 > 40 PSI I was running on the OEMS they were actually larger when inflated. My mileage has taken a nose dive though by about 2>3 MPG. The basket on the roof, very hot weather with air going and too much stop and go related to extensive summer road construction are likely also contributing factors there though.

I am sure that tissue paper tires are great for mileage but never go off pavement and make sure the NASCAR track sweepers are driving in front of you.


I hear you about the paper thin tires. I had a flat today driving to a hiking trail on Mount Baker. It couldn't handle the rough gravel road as a stone cause a leak in the tread. The CRD was the only Jeep at the top and the only one with a flat tire. In defense of the CRD, I told a Passport driver that I can thank Goodyear for my flat. :roll:
Author:  DocB [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:55 pm ]
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Had 2 flats in first 2 weeks on OEM tires.
I'm still looking for a good summer tire in spec size.
Seem hard to find.
Why 225s? Vehicle is under warranty till 85K.
So I'm kinda stuck.
Author:  Jimbob [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:07 pm ]
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My "good for a years" are almost up too probably will buy BFG longtrails from Sams Club which I have had good experiences with for everyday driving or the ATs which in my on road experience do better in snow but worse in slush and ice.

Would like to go a little wider but dont think the wheel wells will accomodate taller.
Author:  Cowcatcher [ Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:03 am ]
Post subject: 
DocB wrote:
Had 2 flats in first 2 weeks on OEM tires.
I'm still looking for a good summer tire in spec size.
Seem hard to find.
Why 225s? Vehicle is under warranty till 85K.
So I'm kinda stuck.


So why would 245/70's hurt your warranty and The Magnaflow not?

Hey BlackLibertyCRD, is it as hot and dry over there as it is here?
Author:  RTStabler51 [ Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:38 am ]
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I went with Yokohama's and they put the stock Crapyears to shame...but all I do is city driving and the occasional highway jaunt...
Author:  BlackLibertyCRD [ Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:37 am ]
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Hey BlackLibertyCRD, is it as hot and dry over there as it is here?

We stay pretty much in the 70 except a couple of days last week it made it near 90. That's our heat wave that happens only a couple times during the summer. Most homes don't have air conditioner here for not needed. We are in the shadows of the mountains so not much rain as south of us. Island County has a burn ban in effect till the end of August, maybe longer. I hear about the many fire east WA from last thunderstorm that passed over the Cascades. That storm skipped over us too. Good luck, I hope the firemen will soon get the upper hand on it all.
Author:  jinstall [ Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:46 am ]
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OEM Size Kumho 798 H Speed rated. A little heavy that stock GY but they handle very well in the rain and in the dry. For $68 each at Tire Rack I could not pass them up. I am looking at getting the 245/70/16 next time for the same $68 each price. BTW I run them with 40psi for the autobahn. I should get 16,000 miles out of them with my very aggressive driving style. I never rotate tires as I burn through them too fast here. maybe when I get back to the US things will last a little longer.
Author:  skywarn [ Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:28 am ]
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I JUST replaced ALL of my rubber... i stayed with the STOCK size (225-75-16) I went with the Goodyear "Trail Mark APR" its a BFG looking tread. and the price was great. $89.00 each.

I hear Firestone is running a Nat. sale for some 245-75-16 for $79.00 each. (AT tread)
Author:  nfmisso [ Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:11 pm ]
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My recommendation is Liberator A/T from Wal-mart in LT225/75R16 - very very long lasting, with plenty of protection for gravel roads. They are made by Michelin who owns BF Goodrich and Uniroyal.

I hase 40K miles on a set on my Ranger, and they look new. They are not quiet.

I am planning on LT215/85R16 after the lift kit is installed on the CRD.
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