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 Post subject: Cannister Air Filter for CRD?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:28 pm 
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Went to a construction expo with small diesel's powering most of the equipment.
Saw the name Donaldson quite a bit and thought a cylindrical filter would be better.
Called Donaldson technical support and they said a panel filter like OEM is what they would provide.
There must be a cannister filter available like in the diesel tractors.
Anyone seen anything that might work?

Edit note: forgot to put in "Air," please excuse my lackofclarity.

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 Post subject: Re: Cannister Filter for CRD?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:58 pm 
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fastRob wrote:
Went to a construction expo with small diesel's powering most of the equipment.
Saw the name Donaldson quite a bit and thought a cylindrical filter would be better.
Called Donaldson technical support and they said a panel filter like OEM is what they would provide.
There must be a cannister filter available like in the diesel tractors.
Anyone seen anything that might work?



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 Post subject: Good Thinking
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:47 pm 
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Sir Sam,
I reread my post and did not mention Air.
A cannister air filter is what I was thinking.
A larger Air filter in the sane space.
Thanks for the pictures of the motor, any luck in getting a vehicle to install it.

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 Post subject: Square inches of filter area is what counts
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:18 pm 
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On tractors, combines, and construction equipment they produce many fewer units and can not afford to build a custom air cleaner housing, so they buy off the shelf units from Donaldson that meet their flow requirements. Also they work in the dirt more and need more filter area. Donaldson has chosen to make their filter housings in a round can configuration and since the off road equipment has a lot of space under the hood, who cares?
From a practical standpoint, spend the $25 and buy an air restriction indicator and install it in you air box: http://picasaweb.google.com/warp2diesel ... nIndicator When it pops red or the odometers tells you to, install a new filter element.
Just don't follow the combines too close that are harvesting the Soybeans used to make Biodiesel, it may clog your air filter very fast.

But look on the bright side, a gasser will catch on fire when covered in soybean dust but your CRD won't :P



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You can keep the cannister filter. I'll take a screw off filter anyday.

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 Post subject: Re: Good Thinking
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fastRob wrote:
Sir Sam,
I reread my post and did not mention Air.
A cannister air filter is what I was thinking.
A larger Air filter in the sane space.
Thanks for the pictures of the motor, any luck in getting a vehicle to install it.


Yes, I noticed you failed to mention which filter you were talking about, my reply was a somewhat sarcastic and yet partially informative post.

No vehicle yet, there are lots out there, it is only a matter money and time to find it.

Niether of which I have in spades right now.

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 Post subject: Soybean Dust: Funny
PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:31 am 
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warp2diesel wrote:
On tractors, combines, and construction equipment they produce many fewer units and can not afford to build a custom air cleaner housing, so they buy off the shelf units from Donaldson that meet their flow requirements. Also they work in the dirt more and need more filter area. Donaldson has chosen to make their filter housings in a round can configuration and since the off road equipment has a lot of space under the hood, who cares?
From a practical standpoint, spend the $25 and buy an air restriction indicator and install it in you air box: http://picasaweb.google.com/warp2diesel ... nIndicator When it pops red or the odometers tells you to, install a new filter element.
Just don't follow the combines too close that are harvesting the Soybeans used to make Biodiesel, it may clog your air filter very fast.

But look on the bright side, a gasser will catch on fire when covered in soybean dust but your CRD won't :P



Steve


Good thinking and Funny.
Have had a lot of time with cannister Air filters and was impressed the way they can swirl the dust into an emptyable cover.
10,000 miles on an air filter, ok, but it seems a cannister would have more filter area and with the centrifical force of the air pushing particles away from the filter membrane, last longer.
Some of those Donaldson's were small.

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I did something like that: http://liberty.eurekaboy.com/airintake.htm

It's not fancy but the throttle response is better compared to the stock or V6 air filter housing.

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 Post subject: Sweet, Great Thinking
PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 9:03 am 
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Stan,

You have it.

Now picture a housing to keep the water off, a snorkel to grab some cool air and have you ever seen one of those filters like yours with the fins on the outside to swirl the dirt away from the filter?

I cannot find one that would fit.

Even when I find the companies web site that make them, nothing.

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 Post subject: Hang it on the side like Peterbuilt
PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 11:28 am 
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Peterbuilt, Kemworth, Freightliner, and Western Star trucks just hang their air filter housings on the side. Might not work on a KJ but what about up on top like the light bar with a big scoop to catch all the air being slip streamed up off the windshield :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:

Just a crazy thought.

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Stan Wright wrote:
I did something like that: http://liberty.eurekaboy.com/airintake.htm

It's not fancy but the throttle response is better compared to the stock or V6 air filter housing.


have you noticed any improvement in MPG?

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AndySRT wrote:
Stan Wright wrote:
I did something like that: http://liberty.eurekaboy.com/airintake.htm

It's not fancy but the throttle response is better compared to the stock or V6 air filter housing.


have you noticed any improvement in MPG?


I'd guess 0.5 mpg at the most. I went from the stock intake to modified stock intake to the conical filter to the V6 intake then back to the conical filter. I think I gained a few tenths with the modified stock intake and a few tenths more with the conical filter. The conical filter definitely gives the best power increase and throttle response.

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