new to the site, recently purchased o5 crd, replaced glow plugs and have changed oil at 6k intervals. while running about 70 started to hear sound of air rushing by and started losing power, took to jeep dealer and they said it needed a turbo. does that sound correct? crd has 50k on it. any insight will be greatly appreciated.

My first thought would be a turbo hose, see this thread viewtopic.php?f=5&t=54207 starting where it states "Fourth, lets check your Boost hoses."

Scratch that Dealer off your list, they obviously know nothing about diesels.

Any chance you saw the Service Writer's name on any Political Signs out front of the Dealership?

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2006 Pearl Green CRD
Magnaflow 2 1/2" Cat Back
KJ Extra Leg Room Brackets, Carter Lift Pump, V6 Airbox, ORM
Fuel cooler, Oil Separator, Progard 7
Gauges EGT Boost Trans Temp Oil Pres, Michelin LXT AT2 245 70 R16
7,000# Draw Tight hitch, PML EX Deep Trans Pan
Centrifuge, SunCoast, Transgo, RAM TCM, InMotion Stage 2
Wife's 99 TDI VW Beetle

thanks for the info, will check hoses this evening, and i do remember seeing some signs in front of the dealership.ha ha

24 hours after buying this CRD my hose busted. Two new intercooler hoses and labor was $500 at the dealership. Fortunately, the used dealer lot my CRD came from gave me a 1,000 mile warranty and I had 700 miles left. So they reimbursed me for the repair.

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2005 Stone White KJ Limited CRD 4x4
Off-Road Pkg
Trac-Lok
Emu 790s/948s
Skyjacker H7088s rear/Bilsteins front
15x7 Black Rock Lobos/31x10.50 Firestones
GDE HOT Tune + TCM Tune
Euro TC
CB radio
Thrush Turbo muffler
AEM DryFlow filter

From my personal experience they tend to burst in a spot that is impossible to check unless the hose is taken off.

And my shameless plug of the day, I have a new driver side hose for sale on ebay, I accidentally ordered the wrong one and my dealer has a strict no returns on special order parts, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 0474177921

I would put money on it being your hoses, not your turbo. We get folks popping on here on a regular basis who are experiencing the same symptoms at about the same mileage, and it's almost always a busted hose. In almost every case, the mechanic (generally a non-diesal tech) has mistakenly diagnosed the issue as a blown turbo.

Buy the Samcos or the new OEM hoses and replace them yourself, unless you're still under warranty like LibertyCRD was when his went... It's literally a ten minute job, if that.

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2006 Jeep Liberty CRD, Limited
GDE Eco Tune, GDE TCM Tune, Bauer 203* Tstat, Amsoil EaA 201 Filter, Clean MAP, Samco CAC Hoses, Magnaflow Muffler #12226.
New Mopar Fuel Filter, K&N Filterminder, Fumoto Oil Drain Valve
225/75R16 Hankook Dynapros

x2 or 3 on it being the hose. If the turbo went it would likely leave no doubt! If it is not obvious while turned off, have someone run it at idle and trace the sound, if still not apparent it should be at v.fast idle: 1,800 to 2,000 rpm.

Replace it yourself. If you can change the oil without stripping out the plug or pan , you can do this very easy repair. I bet it is the hose coming out of the turbo (oil residue build-up highest and highest pressure bulge). I used the OEM hose which is stronger than stock now. Too cheap (I prefere frugal) for SAMCO at the time. I did not replace driver's side hose. I would only replace that one if it is the one busted. If it is the intercooler to engine hose, I'd buy one off of click and purchase the turbo side one too. But because if it hasn't gone, it likely will.

Oh, one more thing. Keep the original clamps and put the hose on tight and retighten again a few miles of heat and wear. If not, your heart might skip a beat and you may possibly soil yourself when it blows off when you take off too quickly at a light. Learn from our mistakes, my friend.

Good luck and welcome aboard,
Boilermaker2

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2005 CRD Sport - "Blackie"
Tow Package
Trac Loc
GDE EcoTune w/ unl torque
Goodyear Wrangler SilentArmor Tires
over 192,000+ miles
100k mile service performed
5V Glow Plugs Installed and ECM updated

X4

Hoses.

NOW..........If this thing is under any kind of warranty,go ahead and get you a new turbo.

If you're paying......Run for the high hills.

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Bub
06 Inop Edition CRD Silver
06 Inop Edition CRD Green

I didn't have the hole in my hose to the point it drained power, but there was oil running down my turbo from the collected oil in the turbo side hose. I've heard that there would have been more to a blown turbo than air rushing by. The bearings would have gone and there would have been noise and smoke. I too had to retightened my SAMCOs after a short while because it began whistling at a light. I've been very happy with them since.

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2005 Black KJ Sport CRD,
GDE Full Torque ECO TUNE, GDE Transmission ECO Tune,
Samco British Racing Green Hoses
Build Date 1/05
200k miles.
Original Owner

Remember that the turbo put around 20psi of air pressure on these hoses and if the clamps are not tightened correctly they can easily slip right off when you put the engine under a good load because they are probably soaked with oil from the cankcase vent unless you have done the off road mod to the vent or installed a Provent type CCV filter.

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06' Liberty Limited CRD, 178K miles, all stock for now. New to me as of 2/2010.
99.5 Jetta TDI
01 NB TDI
98 Jetta TDI
82 VW Caddy diesel, 5 speed

well folks you were correct, blown hose !!! ordered last night will be here this weekend. if you ever breakdown in lynchburg va. do not go to the jeep dealer there!!!! this is a great forum , thanks for all the help

From most of the experiences you'll find here, substitute lynchburg, VA, with Anytown, USA.

Your best bet for a mechanic that understands this engine is looking for a cummins-onan marine dealer. They rebadge the VMMotori 2.8 as a Cummins for several boat applications.

Dan

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2005 Silver CRD Limited
245/75R16 GoodYear Duratracs
Fumoto drain | ProVent CCV Filter
Stanadyne FM100 filter | Cummins fuel pump
GDE Eco | SEGR | BoulderBars | FrankenLift | Frankenskids

You know, I saw that the 2.8 VM maybe similar to those used in marine apps. I emailed the VM rep in Tampa, mainly to see if we can find a reliable source for parts. This is what he emails back:

We sell parts and service only for the Industrial, marine and generator market for all of North America. I have forwarded your request to the VM North American office in Auburn Hill MI. they are your contact for automotive parts and service. If you go to the VM web site www.vmmotori.it you can click on VM North America and find their information.

So, I asked:

Are piston, rods, crankshafts and other parts interchangeable between the marine and automotive application?

Peter Orser's reply:

Totally different engines, sorry.

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Joined the CRD family in July '10. Found a near mint '06 limited, Inferno Red. All stock except lift pump and GDE ECO-Full Torque. Lovin it!