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Author:  sanferd2112 [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:14 am ]
Post subject:  o5 crd
new to the site, recently purchased o5 crd, replaced glow plugs and have changed oil at 6k intervals. while running about 70 started to hear sound of air rushing by and started losing power, took to jeep dealer and they said it needed a turbo. does that sound correct? crd has 50k on it. any insight will be greatly appreciated.
Author:  click23 [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: o5 crd
My first thought would be a turbo hose, see this thread viewtopic.php?f=5&t=54207 starting where it states "Fourth, lets check your Boost hoses."
Author:  warp2diesel [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: o5 crd
sanferd2112 wrote:
new to the site, recently purchased o5 crd, replaced glow plugs and have changed oil at 6k intervals. while running about 70 started to hear sound of air rushing by and started losing power, took to jeep dealer and they said it needed a turbo. does that sound correct? crd has 50k on it. any insight will be greatly appreciated.


Scratch that Dealer off your list, they obviously know nothing about diesels.

Any chance you saw the Service Writer's name on any Political Signs out front of the Dealership? :ROTFL: :ROTFL: :ROTFL: :ROTFL: :ROTFL:
Author:  sanferd2112 [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: o5 crd
thanks for the info, will check hoses this evening, and i do remember seeing some signs in front of the dealership.ha ha
Author:  LibertyCRD [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: o5 crd
24 hours after buying this CRD my hose busted. Two new intercooler hoses and labor was $500 at the dealership. Fortunately, the used dealer lot my CRD came from gave me a 1,000 mile warranty and I had 700 miles left. :) So they reimbursed me for the repair.
Author:  click23 [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: o5 crd
sanferd2112 wrote:
thanks for the info, will check hoses this evening, and i do remember seeing some signs in front of the dealership.ha ha


From my personal experience they tend to burst in a spot that is impossible to check unless the hose is taken off.

And my shameless plug of the day, I have a new driver side hose for sale on ebay, I accidentally ordered the wrong one and my dealer has a strict no returns on special order parts, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 0474177921
Author:  stoutdog [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: o5 crd
I would put money on it being your hoses, not your turbo. We get folks popping on here on a regular basis who are experiencing the same symptoms at about the same mileage, and it's almost always a busted hose. In almost every case, the mechanic (generally a non-diesal tech) has mistakenly diagnosed the issue as a blown turbo.

Buy the Samcos or the new OEM hoses and replace them yourself, unless you're still under warranty like LibertyCRD was when his went... It's literally a ten minute job, if that.
Author:  boilermaker2 [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: o5 crd
x2 or 3 :?: on it being the hose. If the turbo went it would likely leave no doubt! If it is not obvious while turned off, have someone run it at idle and trace the sound, if still not apparent it should be at v.fast idle: 1,800 to 2,000 rpm.

Replace it yourself. If you can change the oil without stripping out the plug or pan :D , you can do this very easy repair. I bet it is the hose coming out of the turbo (oil residue build-up highest and highest pressure bulge). I used the OEM hose which is stronger than stock now. Too cheap (I prefere frugal) for SAMCO at the time. I did not replace driver's side hose. I would only replace that one if it is the one busted. If it is the intercooler to engine hose, I'd buy one off of click and purchase the turbo side one too. But because if it hasn't gone, it likely will. :wink:

Oh, one more thing. Keep the original clamps and put the hose on tight and retighten again a few miles of heat and wear. If not, your heart might skip a beat and you may possibly soil yourself when it blows off when you take off too quickly at a light. Learn from our mistakes, my friend. :oops:

Good luck and welcome aboard,
Boilermaker2
Author:  KJ 119 [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: o5 crd
X4 :?:

Hoses.

NOW..........If this thing is under any kind of warranty,go ahead and get you a new turbo. :BANANA:

If you're paying......Run for the high hills. :shock:
Author:  Big Montana [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: o5 crd
boilermaker2 wrote:
x2 or 3 :?: on it being the hose. If the turbo went it would likely leave no doubt! If it is not obvious while turned off, have someone run it at idle and trace the sound, if still not apparent it should be at v.fast idle: 1,800 to 2,000 rpm.

Replace it yourself. If you can change the oil without stripping out the plug or pan :D , you can do this very easy repair. I bet it is the hose coming out of the turbo (oil residue build-up highest and highest pressure bulge). I used the OEM hose which is stronger than stock now. Too cheap (I prefere frugal) for SAMCO at the time. I did not replace driver's side hose. I would only replace that one if it is the one busted. If it is the intercooler to engine hose, I'd buy one off of click and purchase the turbo side one too. But because if it hasn't gone, it likely will. :wink:

Oh, one more thing. Keep the original clamps and put the hose on tight and retighten again a few miles of heat and wear. If not, your heart might skip a beat and you may possibly soil yourself when it blows off when you take off too quickly at a light. Learn from our mistakes, my friend. :oops:

Good luck and welcome aboard,
Boilermaker2


I didn't have the hole in my hose to the point it drained power, but there was oil running down my turbo from the collected oil in the turbo side hose. I've heard that there would have been more to a blown turbo than air rushing by. The bearings would have gone and there would have been noise and smoke. I too had to retightened my SAMCOs after a short while because it began whistling at a light. I've been very happy with them since.
Author:  Collingwood [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: o5 crd
Remember that the turbo put around 20psi of air pressure on these hoses and if the clamps are not tightened correctly they can easily slip right off when you put the engine under a good load because they are probably soaked with oil from the cankcase vent unless you have done the off road mod to the vent or installed a Provent type CCV filter.
Author:  sanferd2112 [ Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: o5 crd
well folks you were correct, blown hose !!! ordered last night will be here this weekend. if you ever breakdown in lynchburg va. do not go to the jeep dealer there!!!! this is a great forum , thanks for all the help
Author:  dgeist [ Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: o5 crd
sanferd2112 wrote:
well folks you were correct, blown hose !!! ordered last night will be here this weekend. if you ever breakdown in lynchburg va. do not go to the jeep dealer there!!!! this is a great forum , thanks for all the help

From most of the experiences you'll find here, substitute lynchburg, VA, with Anytown, USA.

Your best bet for a mechanic that understands this engine is looking for a cummins-onan marine dealer. They rebadge the VMMotori 2.8 as a Cummins for several boat applications.

Dan
Author:  reka12 [ Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: o5 crd
You know, I saw that the 2.8 VM maybe similar to those used in marine apps. I emailed the VM rep in Tampa, mainly to see if we can find a reliable source for parts. This is what he emails back:

We sell parts and service only for the Industrial, marine and generator market for all of North America. I have forwarded your request to the VM North American office in Auburn Hill MI. they are your contact for automotive parts and service. If you go to the VM web site www.vmmotori.it you can click on VM North America and find their information.

So, I asked:

Are piston, rods, crankshafts and other parts interchangeable between the marine and automotive application?

Peter Orser's reply:

Totally different engines, sorry.
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