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 Post subject: yankin it tomorrow
PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:57 pm 
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pullin the tranny tomorrow.... ordered the ned flex plate.... hopin to save the torque converter .....
is there a good cheep upgrade converter..... ?
still makin payments on the crd .... dont wanna spend too much on the converter....

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 Post subject: Re: yankin it tomorrow
PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:14 pm 
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$317.00 FROM MOPAR PARTS AMERICA COM

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 Post subject: Re: yankin it tomorrow
PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:17 am 
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I would think you can not afford to "Not" to change the TC while you got it apart.

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 Post subject: Re: yankin it tomorrow
PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:47 pm 
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Unless you have previously installed a "euro" TC, I could not agree more with FLMAN. It would be nuts to go through all that and not upgrade the TC. BTW, the TC he suggested is NOT a "cheap-out". It is now the new "standard" MOPAR replacement TC for the KJ CRD in the US, though it was originally developed for the higher power euro diesels. We have run one for 20K, so far, towing a 5K trailer and haved observed absolutely no problems while running the GDE "HOT" tune.

The only issue is to check the TC to pump seal. If it is leaking, you have to install a new pump because the "old style" seal is no longer available. I was able to avoid seal replacement along with most others, so hopefully you will be in with the majority and not have to. While some people here have insisted that the TC "shudder" problem has to do with the pump, I disagree. I know that most people who have installed the 'euro" TC have done so w/o touching the pump and all have had great results. I did a lot of research before doing mine w/o pump replacement and I have seen no reason to regret that, so far.

To my knowledge, I have not heard a single report about any problems from anyone in the US who has installed this TC. BTW, for anyone still under factory warranty (like us) you don't have to worry about voiding the transmission warranty due to installing a "non-factory" part.

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 Post subject: Re: yankin it tomorrow
PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:35 pm 
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i got the trans out in 2 hrs ...( .5 hrs were looking for a 10mm socket)
this unit has been out befor prior to today... the hacker that took it out did a number on the wire harness.....


i am confused about the converters!!! :?: :!: :?: :!:
i may go with the suncoast ... but .... i can only find one for $695
i followed the mopar parts web hyper link that is in this thread , but could NOT find a torque converter....( i'm dumb)....
is the $319 factory one good? will it hold up to the eco tune or hot tune if i so choose later..??
we dont plan on towing .... this is the little womans car... :?:
please help , i want to order the converter tonight!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:49 pm 
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The Suncoast is good and ~$700 is right - however the new style 'European' Mopar has been holding up fine in the GDE

from another thread - I think you're looking for 68037142AA

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68037142AA is a part number for a kit consisting of:
04736914AA - torque converter qty 1
01949765 - screw qty 4

P04736914AA is a good torque converter number although old. Just make sure that the hub is clean. If it has rust on the portion of the hub that inserts into the transmission pump then send it back, don't sand it off and use it. That area should have been covered by a plastic cap.

TTP0168B0399 is (I think) the serial number.

I'm not sure what 914AA0168A means, could be a date code for a '914AA' converter.

You should be good to go.

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 Post subject: Re: yankin it tomorrow
PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:13 pm 
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Not sure what was confusing about my post. if you can be more specific, I will try to clarify.

Regarding receiving the Mopar converter from MPA:

1. The correct part # (68037142AA) is ONLY on the box. (It is NOT anywhere on the actual converter at all.)

2. Do not be put off if the housing has some surface rust on it.

3. Do not be surprised if some (or all) of the four small bolts that are supposed to be in the box are missing.

4. If it rattles a bit when you shake it, that's OK.


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 Post subject: Re: yankin it tomorrow
PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:03 am 
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its much clearer now...
i ordered the mopar converter , by the part# posted


i'm so happy this is the problem and it's not the engine !

just waiting for parts!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:36 am 
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Since you are not the first one to have this problem, I think I am going to loctite the bolts on my torque converters as a preventative measure. Not too hard, disconnect the battery, pull the starter and access plug, loctite the 4 bolts, put it back together.

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 Post subject: Re: yankin it tomorrow
PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:44 am 
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wish i was not so thick headed.....i heard this noise in the wal-mart parking lot 2 fridays ago and thought either broken flex plate or bag engine...

being my fathers son and a life time pesimist....i went right to engine....

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:20 am 
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X2 on the Euro TC... I had a case of bad shudder since installing the hot tune, but now with the new TC, problem solved!

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 Post subject: Re: yankin it tomorrow
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sweet deal on a tranny jack at harbor freight tools.....
they were out of stock so i got the floor model for $100
saved $40.....

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:39 am 
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manuel754 wrote:
sweet deal on a tranny jack at harbor freight tools.....
they were out of stock so i got the floor model for $100
saved $40.....


Mine cost about $1.00, I fastened a scrap piece of 2x6 to the top of a floor jack with screws and strapping :goink:

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 Post subject: Re: yankin it tomorrow
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:12 am 
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Is it necessary to replace the TC when you do an ECO tune from GDE? My gramp's is wanting me to get the upgraded ECM from GDE but he has a stock transmission with 100k.

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kadetklapp wrote:
Is it necessary to replace the TC when you do an ECO tune from GDE? My gramp's is wanting me to get the upgraded ECM from GDE but he has a stock transmission with 100k.


No Eco tune does not cause shudder in stock TC.

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