Maybe all the environmental scientists on the board can head out to Cali in their defense. Come on guys, the government never lies to us
dum dee dum dee dum Common sense prevails again
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| Author: | onthehunt [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | CARB busted |
Let the excuses begin... http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... z11iqEfuN9 |
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| Author: | warp2diesel [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CARB busted |
Great Post, I want to see the hand cuffs going on them. I would even watch CNN or MSNBC to see it happen. I was in San Jose, CA this week and the City had an Emergency Sewage Pump with a large New 6 cylinder CAT engine that could not comply with the latest CARB regulations and will need to be fitted with a DPF. The engine met all the foreseeable CARB regs when the City issued the PO, but CARB crapped out more regs before it was ever delivered, so now the Emergency Sewage Pump sits and they have to rent an Emergency Sewage Pump as they wait for the CARB mandated upgrade. Of course with the revisions who will know what is needed. I hope the sewers back up into CARB's offices, they deserve it. |
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| Author: | flman [ Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CARB busted |
Maybe all the environmental scientists on the board can head out to Cali in their defense. Come on guys, the government never lies to us dum dee dum dee dum Common sense prevails again
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| Author: | Joe Romas [ Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CARB busted |
The sad part is these crooks, clowns or liars, take your pick, are controlling how the whole country is going  Just think a bunch of old age hippies left over from the sixties smooking their weed making decisions controlling the whole country 
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| Author: | Wobbly [ Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CARB busted |
Cross the border from California to Tijuana to experience unregulated diesel emissions up close and personal. |
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| Author: | kskj [ Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CARB busted |
Joe Romas wrote: The sad part is these crooks, clowns or liars, take your pick, are controlling how the whole country is going Just think a bunch of old age hippies left over from the sixties smooking their weed making decisions controlling the whole country I think you are right. I had a call from CBS pollster yesterday. Among the political questions they asked if I was in favor of legalizing marijuana.
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| Author: | warp2diesel [ Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CARB busted |
Joe Romas wrote: The sad part is these crooks, clowns or liars, take your pick, are controlling how the whole country is going Just think a bunch of old age hippies left over from the sixties smooking their weed making decisions controlling the whole country The pot heads still have some common sense left, these dudes must have done acid more than a few times. I find it amazing how many of the illegal drug users make analogies between a drug trip and romantic encounters to push their stuff. I guess most of us figured out how to do it the natural way with a romantic encounter and did not need the chemical trip. For one example Female Hysteria was once an ailment that was treated by Doctors. Now it is classified as Junk Science. Correct me if I am wrong, but thanks to the discoveries of the WWII Generation they found a natural cure for the ailment that is now a well accepted practice (Terrorists Excluded, correct me if I am wrong, but they prefer goats). When it comes to clean air, no one in their right mind wants to belch out black smoke and fumes, but CARB is committing fraud and should suffer both criminal and civil consequences. |
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| Author: | flman [ Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CARB busted |
warp2diesel wrote: When it comes to clean air, no one in their right mind wants to belch out black smoke and fumes, but CARB is committing fraud and should suffer both criminal and civil consequences. They should be sued and pay us all for the money we have spent on EGR, DPF, DEF, CAT, GDE tunes................. I am wondering, why none of the pro emissions and regulations gang have not responded yet? This is pretty much the death nail to their defense of the "DPF" and the "Sulfur" threads. |
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| Author: | warp2diesel [ Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CARB busted |
flman wrote: warp2diesel wrote: When it comes to clean air, no one in their right mind wants to belch out black smoke and fumes, but CARB is committing fraud and should suffer both criminal and civil consequences. They should be sued and pay us all for the money we have spent on EGR, DPF, DEF, CAT, GDE tunes................. I am wondering, why have no of the pro emissions and regulations gang have not responded yet? This is pretty much the death nail to their defense of the "DPF" and the "Sulfur" threads. Rather than taking the Logical approach like Workers will either get intoxicated, pass out, or die from exposure to H2S, radiation or other compounds. Determine safe levels and practice safety protocols when working around H2S. OSHA has accepted the findings of this logical safety practice and embraced it as they should. CARB & EPA have the attitude that if it can be detected there is no safe level and the regulations will be ratcheted up and up until nothing can no longer be detected (all out aircraft would need 6" thick lead lining if some of the EPA Idiots had their way). When new equipment is developed, they start over again expanding their regulations like malignant cancer that will kill off its' host. To support their crap, they engage in Scare You to Death Circular Emotional Arguments. Their Junk Science is based upon other Junk Science created by their cronies, pure Political Agenda that has nothing to do with the environment, just a way to create a boogie man. With all due respect to Sigmund Freud and his discoveries, I wonder how much of his findings were tainted by the Assumed Fact of the Time Female Hysteria that later was proven to be Pure Junk Science. The Male Bovine Excrement Junk Science EPA & CARB uses will fall by the wayside and only the true science we all want to follow will be left. X2 on suing CARB & EPA. Plus, the Teamsters should have their very smart and competent Lawyer James P. Hoffa lead the charge for lost wages due to needless regulations based upon Junk Science. |
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| Author: | kdlewis1975 [ Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CARB busted |
flman wrote: warp2diesel wrote: When it comes to clean air, no one in their right mind wants to belch out black smoke and fumes, but CARB is committing fraud and should suffer both criminal and civil consequences. They should be sued and pay us all for the money we have spent on EGR, DPF, DEF, CAT, GDE tunes................. I am wondering, why none of the pro emissions and regulations gang have not responded yet? This is pretty much the death nail to their defense of the "DPF" and the "Sulfur" threads. Probably because is it is impossible to "reason with the unreasonable." |
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| Author: | dkenny [ Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CARB busted |
Ditto Warp2diesel... hay..wait a minute..are we all agreeing here..flman, dkenny, warp2diesel??chrisman(might be a typo) do you agree? yes the CARB should be held accountable for their actions!!! and reviewed by their peers!! jail time otherwise! and reversal of the laws the violators created!! how much clean air do we need since the REST of the WORLD doesn't care!!! just look at China!, Iran!, and others!!! Don't get me wrong..but the Air used to clear enough to see a candle at 20 miles..not any more.. -dkenny |
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| Author: | flman [ Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CARB busted |
dkenny wrote: Ditto Warp2diesel... Don't get me wrong..but the Air used to clear enough to see a candle at 20 miles..not any more.. -dkenny Why do we need to see a candle when we have diesel generators to provide much brighter lighting 
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| Author: | warp2diesel [ Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CARB busted |
Even in the vacuum of space, we could not see a candle 20 miles away with all the lights we have on now, yup the lights shine out into space. Fly on a red eye flight sometime in the winter when the humidity is very low and air clear, there are lights almost everywhere unless you are flying over the ocean, and then you might see a candle on the deck of a sail boat with a couple who wants to left alone as they are enjoying the stars both figurative and literal, if you catch my drift. |
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| Author: | RAF 3829 [ Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CARB busted |
[quote="flman This is pretty much the death nail to their defense of the "DPF" and the "Sulfur" threads.[/quote]  Going to be interesting watching this play out.
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| Author: | flman [ Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CARB busted |
RAF 3829 wrote: [quote="flman This is pretty much the death nail to their defense of the "DPF" and the "Sulfur" threads. Going to be interesting watching this play out.[/quote]Nothing playing out until Captain Planet and his Planeteers join the discussion in defense of CARB. I guess when your beaten, it is better to say nothing.  It is just ironic that this would happen after 2 long threads of we are destroying the earth.Here is an old TV show CARB used to use to indoctrinate children to their political agenda. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcJI87u3DoQ |
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| Author: | LibertyCRD [ Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CARB busted |
California. The "land of fruits and nuts". |
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| Author: | warp2diesel [ Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CARB busted |
Is the Ted Turner who came up with the Captain Planet idea the same jerk who owns CNN? I heard the Grizzly Bears won't eat him because they have better taste. |
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| Author: | Wobbly [ Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CARB NOT busted |
The article "Bad data fueled diesel rule", October 8, paints an inaccurate picture of the state Air Resources Board's actions to reduce toxic diesel pollution from off-road equipment and trucks. Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... z126H6dr1I |
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| Author: | warp2diesel [ Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CARB NOT busted |
Wobbly wrote: The article "Bad data fueled diesel rule", October 8, paints an inaccurate picture of the state Air Resources Board's actions to reduce toxic diesel pollution from off-road equipment and trucks. Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... z126H6dr1I A CARB cronie's opinion with nothing to back it up. Just a pure Emotional Circular Argument not even worthy of being called Male Bovine Excrement. In this case, she doesn't even throw the worn out Fraudulent Junk Science that has been exposed in several threads in this forum. To buy her opinion, one would have to have a lot of Faith in CARB. Of course, we are not to discuss the CARB Religion, just the facts in this forum. Hand Cuffs & jail time for CARB their reign of outrageous regulatory terrorism is over. BTW: Watch out for Di-Hydrogen Monoxide, it can kill you if you inhale it. |
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| Author: | Wobbly [ Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CARB NOT busted |
warp2diesel wrote: Wobbly wrote: Of course, we are not to discuss the CARB Religion, just the facts in this forum. Sorry if I mistook this scholarly discussion for right-wing bloviating. |
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