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| Author: | Sir Sam [ Mon May 09, 2011 12:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | replaced my timing belt today: |
At 111k+ miles finally got around to changing it. Most annoying part of the job for me was getting the fan clutch off, no local places had an adjustable spanner, and that thing was on there good and hard, ended up needed heating and a metric $h!t ton of torque to bust em loose. Definitely get an adjustable spanner before getting ready to do the Job. I took pics and even a video of the engine running without the front cover on. Gonna do my own writeup for doing the belt to add on to the others out there. |
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| Author: | Roostre [ Mon May 09, 2011 8:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: replaced my timing belt today: |
 Can't wait to see your write up! Mine should be due about this time next year. I already failed to remove the fan clutch once when doing my TC. Tried everything but heat. Its tough to stick a torch under the hood! Ended up leaving it on while we pulled the trans and all worked out ok. |
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| Author: | DynoPax [ Mon May 09, 2011 1:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: replaced my timing belt today: |
Yes, the fan can be tough to remove. I punctured the rad the last time I removed it, so eager I was to have finally loosen' the little  ! About your upcoming write-up & pics, to paraphrase linewarbr: I'll be on this like a hobo on a ham sandwich 
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| Author: | tonycrd [ Mon May 09, 2011 1:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: replaced my timing belt today: |
This works too: 
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| Author: | racertracer [ Mon May 09, 2011 3:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: replaced my timing belt today: |
Patience is a virtue 
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| Author: | salden77 [ Mon May 09, 2011 3:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: replaced my timing belt today: |
guess ill be needing all the patience in the world, my water pump starting pissing real bad this last week on friday, ripped it all apart this today, waiting on parts, figured while i have it all apart might as do the timing belt and tensioner (only at 71,xxx miles). ordered timing belt, tensioner and water pump today from chrysler parts center, parts were cheaper by about a hundred total than at moparpartsamerica.com |
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| Author: | Sir Sam [ Mon May 09, 2011 4:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: replaced my timing belt today: |
DynoPax wrote: Yes, the fan can be tough to remove. I punctured the rad the last time I removed it, so eager I was to have finally loosen' the little ! About your upcoming write-up & pics, to paraphrase linewarbr: I'll be on this like a hobo on a ham sandwich Like Oprah on a baked ham? |
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| Author: | Sir Sam [ Mon May 09, 2011 9:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: replaced my timing belt today: |
Well, when I went to put back in the passenger side CAC hose I found out that the turbo inlet hose had rotted out down at the clamp on the turbo. Luckily a Jeep dealer had it in stock in town, $63 and some frustration its back together. Also found a small leak in the intercooler, JB welded it up and it appears to no longer be leaking. with the new belt on the engine seems to idle quieter and make less diesel noise. took a brief test run and it feels a little peppyer than normal. Will keep bleeding the cooling system and then take it for a good italian tuneup. |
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| Author: | tjkj2002 [ Mon May 09, 2011 10:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: replaced my timing belt today: |
This...............  And this..........  And this................  Makes short work of any fan clutch,off and on is seconds. |
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| Author: | Sir Sam [ Tue May 10, 2011 12:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: replaced my timing belt today: |
tjkj2002 wrote: This............... None of those are large enough, nor do they appear to be pin type spanners. |
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| Author: | tjkj2002 [ Tue May 10, 2011 12:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: replaced my timing belt today: |
Sir Sam wrote: tjkj2002 wrote: This............... None of those are large enough, nor do they appear to be pin type spanners. No spanner needed and I'm sure the CRD uses the same 36mm clutch fan nut like 95% of all others do.That kit comes 7 of the most popular sizes with another 8 available seperatly.That kit really does work like a charm,and again no spanner wrench needed. |
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| Author: | Sir Sam [ Tue May 10, 2011 12:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: replaced my timing belt today: |
tjkj2002 wrote: Sir Sam wrote: tjkj2002 wrote: This............... None of those are large enough, nor do they appear to be pin type spanners. No spanner needed and I'm sure the CRD uses the same 36mm clutch fan nut like 95% of all others do.That kit comes 7 of the most popular sizes with another 8 available seperatly.That kit really does work like a charm,and again no spanner wrench needed. Ok.....so no spanner needed....then how do you keep the pulley from turning? |
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| Author: | BlackLibertyCRD [ Tue May 10, 2011 12:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: replaced my timing belt today: |
Sir Sam wrote: Ok.....so no spanner needed....then how do you keep the pulley from turning? I found that you can stick a socket through one of the pulley larger hole on the head of the bolt of the bearing assemble and keep the pulley from turning. You had to do that to take it off. So easy a cave man can do it. JK I know hindsight is 20 20. 
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| Author: | Sir Sam [ Tue May 10, 2011 1:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: replaced my timing belt today: |
BlackLibertyCRD wrote: Sir Sam wrote: Ok.....so no spanner needed....then how do you keep the pulley from turning? I found that you can stick a socket through one of the pulley larger hole on the head of the bolt of the bearing assemble and keep the pulley from turning. You had to do that to take it off. So easy a cave man can do it. JK I know hindsight is 20 20. Tried all manner of things like that, including that bolt head, I never got anything to catch. Finally ended up jamming a 2 foot "screwdriver" into the hole and bracing that on the frame. Combined with the heat and the 3 feet of leverage on the large cresent I was able to bust it loose. |
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| Author: | racertracer [ Tue May 10, 2011 5:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: replaced my timing belt today: |
Steps on how to remove fan clutch: Step 1. Stick one tight fitting bolt in the hole of spindle, the one that is resting on the left side of the spindle, tighten bolt on nut. Step 2. Hold bolt tight with ratchet (a long handled ratchet or breaker bar helps). Step 3. Place crescent wrench on clutch fan nut and tighten, point crescent wrench handle straight up (vertical). Step 4. Hit crescent wrench handle counterclockwise (from right to left) with heavy hammer, one good whack while the ratchet is holding onto the bolt tight up against the spindle. (Difficult to explain, you'll see how it works) Clutch fan is free for removal. |
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| Author: | tjkj2002 [ Tue May 10, 2011 11:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: replaced my timing belt today: |
Sir Sam wrote: Ok.....so no spanner needed....then how do you keep the pulley from turning? That tool goes into a air hammer,you also leave the serp belt on and that with the fast blows from the air hammer is enough tension to keep it from moving long enough to loosen it. Cheasy vid,no sound but how it works............ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU_cpAoNvdA&feature=related |
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| Author: | papaindigo [ Tue May 10, 2011 12:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: replaced my timing belt today: |
Cheasy video for sure but it gets the point across. FYI this is available from Amazon. Lisle 43370 handle assembly $58 (incl ship) and 43390 36mm driving wrench $25 (incl ship - assuming that's the right one, others cost about the same) vs 43300 kit $125 (free ship - if you dig a bit) which seems to be about the best kit price. Before anyone rushes out to purchase I note that Advance Auto Parts sells this tool which makes me wonder if they or one of their competitors does the "free" tool rental (pay for tool; use it; bring it back in good shape get your money back). |
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| Author: | Sir Sam [ Tue May 10, 2011 3:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: replaced my timing belt today: |
tjkj2002 wrote: Sir Sam wrote: Ok.....so no spanner needed....then how do you keep the pulley from turning? That tool goes into a air hammer,you also leave the serp belt on and that with the fast blows from the air hammer is enough tension to keep it from moving long enough to loosen it. Cheasy vid,no sound but how it works............ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU_cpAoNvdA&feature=related Ah, gotcha now. The old "Use the impact so the other side doesn't have time to spin trick." Even then though, it took so much torque to bust this loose, and the belt held so minimally that I would give it less than a 40% chance of working. Still, that would be a worthwhile tool to have if you were doing this much. |
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| Author: | tjkj2002 [ Tue May 10, 2011 4:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: replaced my timing belt today: |
Sir Sam wrote: Ah, gotcha now. The old "Use the impact so the other side doesn't have time to spin trick." Even then though, it took so much torque to bust this loose, and the belt held so minimally that I would give it less than a 40% chance of working. Still, that would be a worthwhile tool to have if you were doing this much. Out of the 100 or so times I've used it there has been only one time it failed to loosen a clutch nut within 1-2 seconds,and talking about 10-12 year old vehicles also sometimes.That one time it failed to loosen fast was when the owner had used thread locker on the clutch fan nut and when the WP went out again 2 years later could not get the fan off,I had to use my chain wrench to hold the WP pulley on that one. |
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| Author: | TJ2 [ Tue May 10, 2011 6:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: replaced my timing belt today: |
I've had my fan clutch (and Kaps's fan mod) off twice. Quite a PITA. Second time around I put anti-seize on the threads. Time will tell how well it works. |
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