F37 recall - dealer won't do it

Tinman · **Joined:** Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:45 am **Posts:** 308

So I finally get around to scheduling the F37 recall. I originally didn't want this at all because the new TC was a higher stall speed than the original (all ready too loose in my opinion). But with all the good feedback on the euro TC I figured it'd be a good idea plus I think the pump seals may be leaking. So I scheduled it but the wife went by to drop it off today and they said the VIN didn't require it. It has had all the other recalls (including the F31). I thought all CRDs got the F37. So what do I tell the idiot at the dealership.

cerich · **Posted:** Wed May 18, 2011 5:51 pm

nothing, call Chrysler and have them call the stealership

GreenDieselEngineering · **Joined:** Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:10 pm **Posts:** 1111

The torque converter recall only covered the 2005 CRD. That recall installed the same torque converter that came stock with the 2006 CRD. F37 was change in the TCM program for both model years to increase the speed threshold for torque converter lock-up. If I recollect correctly the F31 was an engine ECM update to lower the torque output with the TC is in lock-up mode.

flman · **Posted:** Wed May 18, 2011 7:28 pm

Tinman wrote:

So I finally get around to scheduling the F37 recall. I originally didn't want this at all because the new TC was a higher stall speed than the original (all ready too loose in my opinion). But with all the good feedback on the euro TC I figured it'd be a good idea plus I think the pump seals may be leaking. So I scheduled it but the wife went by to drop it off today and they said the VIN didn't require it. It has had all the other recalls (including the F31). I thought all CRDs got the F37. So what do I tell the idiot at the dealership.

Go have a look at the Woodtick Thread :ROTFL:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=60152

Tinman · **Joined:** Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:45 am **Posts:** 308

I see here where several 06s have had the F37. I saw something somewhere since my first post that stated it was for 06s up to a certain build date. :?:

If that's true, it means I got the non-euro updated TC from the factory - correct? Anyway of getting the euro version? The truck runs fine. Once, just to see, I tried to make the TC slip with a 1000lbs trailer and a low rpm uphill acceleration in drive. I thought I got a little slip a maybe a touch of shutter but nothing bad.

What pump and seals would the truck have if it had a updated TC from the factory.

yakers · **Posted:** Thu May 19, 2011 1:20 am

Tinman wrote:

I see here where several 06s have had the F37. I saw something somewhere since my first post that stated it was for 06s up to a certain build date. :?:

I have an 06 that got the TC replaced in Dec 06, probably the original type TC, before Euro type was released. I understand that CRDs with early build dates were covered by the F37 mod. No problems @ 89K miles so far. I expect there will be an issue some day, I would like a new TC and hot GDE tune but will wait until the TC requires a change.

Joe Romas · **Posted:** Thu May 19, 2011 7:26 am

Here we go again :ROTFL:

When was your 06 CRD built :?:

F37 applied to all 05 and 06 CRDs BUT WAS DIFFERENT depending on the build date :banghead:

Built before November 2005 got a TC and both ECM and TCM flashed.
Built after November 2005 only got the ECM and TCM flashed because they already had the newer TC:BANANA:
So all 05's and early 06's got TC's but later 06's only got the flashes :5SHOTS:

Only those pre 11/05 units that made a noise the tech could hear also got the updated pump. The noise was from the TC coming apart and spreading metal shavings throughout the transmission.
The "Euro" TC didn't come out untill 2009 so most/none got the Euro under F37.

As I recall the actual switch date was November 02, 2005 :jester:

The F37 program didn't come out untill after 06 production of the CRD has stopped :ALONE:

Tinman · **Joined:** Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:45 am **Posts:** 308

Thanks Joe that cleared it up. I am sure that info was around here but I couldn't find it on my search. I guess I'm the idiot in this case. Too bad, I was wanting that euro converter. I'll just service it and wait til it pukes and then go to Suncoast.

warp2diesel · **Posted:** Thu May 19, 2011 10:58 pm

Tinman wrote:

Thanks Joe that cleared it up. I am sure that info was around here but I couldn't find it on my search. I guess I'm the idiot in this case. Too bad, I was wanting that euro converter. I'll just service it and wait til it pukes and then go to Suncoast.

X2 on Suncoast.
The new ones are even stronger than mine and can handle 400+HP, not that a CRD engine can put out that much HP. :BANANA:

F37 recall - dealer won't do it

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