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 Post subject: Confessions of a Crd N00b.
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 6:30 pm 
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After much reading, including the noob guide, I find i still have some questions.
Here's what i have so far:

air filter ... Check
fuel filter ... Check
Oil change ... Check
ORM ... Check
EHM ... Check
Clean MAP ... Check

First up:
EHM mod, what does it look like for the rest of you on the exit end of the hose?
This is what it looks like for me: ( ~NOTE~ TURN DOWN SPEAKERS)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw4D9NCHSY0

Seems like its a constant flow of crappy soot filled air. normal?


Second:

where the hell can i get a lift pump shipped to canada?
all the searches for mopar 5143160AA turn up as US shipping only. help!


Third:
Euro TC
I'm not afraid of pulling my transmission off, the part i cant seem to get an answer on is; Do i JUST have to replace the TC, or do i need to do the pump or anything else as well.
If its just the TC, its not so bad.

I ask because i'd like to purchase a GDE tune, but if im going to do that, i might as well swap the TC, and get both computers programmed at the same time.
I have a sticker in the engine bay that is tagged F-31. good news from what i can read, its not f-37.

Thanks a bunch guys, its because of this forum, and the support that i went and bought a crd! I found one with 45000 KM!

Nick

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 Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Crd N00b.
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 7:24 pm 
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A lift pump might not be required with the new fuel filter head. I've had no need for one.


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 Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Crd N00b.
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 7:58 pm 
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it gets awfully cold up here...

new part number from mopar?

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 Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Crd N00b.
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 9:09 pm 
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I have the provent filter instal so I dont have those EHM fumes and smells arround, so far after a 1000miles is working awsome, may be me but the engine even feels a bit smoother. Here is a link for what you need you get a provent done so you dont brake your head on the process :mrgreen: http://www.auerbach.ca/kj/provent/ the only thing I did different was the bracket, I used a punched flat bar from a hardware store and bended to the shape I needed. I can even tell you that if you are careful enough it will look as another factory system :wink:
also, like the comment above, I had the new filter head done along with aliminating the quick connectors at the fuel tank and all my air in fuel problems are gone so no pickup pump needed.
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 Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Crd N00b.
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 9:36 pm 
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New fuel filter head part# is 68043089AA and the par number is written on top of the filter head, just take a look and if you see a different part # then you know you have the old style, which in that case you will also need the adapter harness part #68043086AB


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 Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Crd N00b.
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 10:00 pm 
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thanks!

68043086AB comes up with no hits on http://www.moparpartsamerica.com

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 Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Crd N00b.
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 11:14 pm 
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mopartpartsamerica is not only expensive but also low in stock. here is were I get my stuff http://oemmoparonline.com/catalog/index.php they ship from florida.
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 Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Crd N00b.
PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 9:47 am 
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Nickademus - I cannot comment on the EHM or Provent but with respect to the other items in this thread. Check with Squeeto on shipping to Canada as I'm pretty sure he has managed to do it.

With respect to lift pumps there are a variety of options if you are getting excess air in the fuel. First (do this regardless of whether you add a lift pump as the gen 1 heater puck is prone to burn out which can = fire or an air leak) if you have a 1st generation fuel filter head replace it with a 2nd generation head. If you are not sure which fuel head you have see http://www.greendieselengineering.com/f ... st/76.page for how to tell. That post includes the part #s although prices have gone up; you need both the head and wiring but the head comes with a new fuel filter. Doing this alone may solve your air in fuel problems, it did for me. If not the likely air leak points are the fuel line quick release fittings all of which (access for some requires dropping the fuel tank which you have to do anyway if installing an in tank lift pump) can be cut out and the location bypassed with clamps and fuel hose. With the fittings gone there should be no air leaks. If you still want a lift pump some like internal and some like external. Internal fans seem to lean toward a Dodge Cummins diesel pump (lots of posts on the forum) and there are after market options so you are not limited to OEM. Again Squeeto seems to have spent some time looking into this and may have advice on which pump to get. External fans split into those that install a Kennedy pump (http://www.kennedydiesel.com/ - look under Duramax Parts; Lift Pumps; Pumps Only) back near the tank and those who install a Facet or Mr. Gasket pump (viewtopic.php?f=5&t=60816&p=674503&hilit=facet#p674503) in the same location or up in the engine compartment. Lots of forum chat about pump psi - 5-8 psi is fine, higher may be ok but how high I do not know.

F-31 is a Transmission Control Module Programming flash for the 2006 model year. This does not mean you don't have the F-37 lots of vehicles that had it done were not marked and later 2006 model year CRDs came from the factory with F-37 done. You can tell by warming up the Jeep, getting speed up to 55mph and gradually increasing speed, if the last shift is ca. 58mph no F-37 but if it's ca. 62mph F-37 has been done.

If you are doing your TC I'd be inclined to do the pump also but that's a rather uneducated opinion. That said why are you leaning toward doing your TC? If you have a late year 2006 then you likely have the 2n gen TC (not to be confused with the Euro) which is what early 2006 and 2005 models got if their TC was replaced as part of F-37. In any case if you TC is not shuddering it's perfectly capable of handling the GDE EcoTune and their regular TCM tune. That's what I'm running on a stock TC as is stoutdog both with no problems. Now if you are looking for "hotter" versions of either tune that's a different story.

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 Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Crd N00b.
PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 11:07 am 
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nickademus wrote:
it gets awfully cold up here...



That's why they have winter diesel.


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 Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Crd N00b.
PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 11:12 am 
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From personal experience F31 means yours got a early version, may/june 06, of what later became F37 :grim: That early version made the obdii port non compatable with third party scanners and f31 was an offocial recall to correct it. The few that got this early flash my/your CRD got the offocial version f37 when f31 was preformed :banghead:
Few if any CRD's came from the factory with F37. By the time F37 came out, towards the end of 06, Chrysler had stopped production of US CRD's. Here's a news release indicating production was stopped of US CRD's in May 06.
http://www.autos.ca/forum/index.php/topic,46184.0.html
Those 05 and early 06 built before 11/2/05 only got new front pumps IF the torque converter was making a noise indicating it was already failing.

I'm told Suncoast is offering improved rebuilt pumps that have improved valves with steel bores and that they are $350 and most likely that's exchange. Reading the F37 directions it tells the tech how to replace the front pump without gutting the transmission. Something about holding the input shaft in when removing the pump so the shaft and the guts don't come out with the pump :furious:
Both the original and second generation pump hav aluminum bores that wear and cause pressure problems.

Some have the Transgo kit and are pleased with the results.


An improved TC, Suncoast or euro and GDE full torque tune allows the CRD to be what it should have been from the start.

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 Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Crd N00b.
PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 1:00 pm 
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thanks again, nice to know i can probably get away with just the tc, and not have to deal with pulling the pump.

Edit:

Nobody knows about the flow rate on the EHM? i dont get the "occasional mist and drops of oil can be seen coming from the hose."
quoted here: http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=54207 under getting the most from your CRD.

i get a fairly constant amount of " mist"

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