Old Glow plugs or New Glow plugs?

racertracer · **Posted:** Mon May 30, 2011 5:51 am

What are your views on replacing the original glow plugs if they are working fine.

I am wondering if it would make sense to replace the original ceramic GP to the new metal ones even if the old ones are working properly and before they get a chance to break off and cause trouble.

What's your take on this?

papaindigo · **Posted:** Mon May 30, 2011 8:04 am

I'm leaning toward replacing them or having them replaced but haven't decided yet but then I've already done proactive window regulator Steiger replacements and intalled Samcos before anything "had" to be done.

flman · **Posted:** Mon May 30, 2011 8:07 am

My ceramics are staying until they need replacement. When are you proactive guys going to start selling your used ceramic GPs that you take out?

warp2diesel · **Posted:** Mon May 30, 2011 9:02 am

One common occurrence is that History repeats its' self. VW went through the same crap with Ceramic Glow Plugs. My summery may be over simplified for some and I make no claim to be exact, but close enough for most of us to see the big picture of events.
VW replaced ceramics with metal ones and did all kinds of over and over reflash crap, lousy starting in cold weather and metal glow plug failures. Now they have a newer revised glow plug that has ceramic and some metal to keep the chunks from falling off. Those who who could, said screw the psychopathic reflash and metal glow plug Kool Aid are now able to install the new ones and have them work. In the VW TDI PD community the best reported starts come from those who have the latest glow plugs that are a couple generations beyond the crap Chrysler is pushing with an Aftermarket tune flash combo, not the VW Politically Correct glow plug flash.
What it boils down to is that the Effing Bean Counters will not allow Engineering to put in the time to solve the problem, so all that gets done is triage crap fixes like reflash and modified off the shelf glow plug excuses that are revised to fit to get buy.
What I plan to do is use my ceramics until my new ones and my used spares kick the bucket and hope Chrysler or an Aftermarket company gets it all figured out.
The other alternative is to have Plasma Igniters that screw into the same holes as the glow plugs.

flman · **Posted:** Mon May 30, 2011 1:49 pm

What brand does our CRD use? What voltage are the ceramic ones? I did a quick search and it seems we might be able to get them from over seas?

http://www.glow-plugs.co.uk/

http://www.autotekelectronics.com/newau ... 5%2811V%29

papaindigo · **Posted:** Mon May 30, 2011 4:06 pm

The glow plug are Bosch, the original ceramic are 7v, the replacement metal are 5v hence the need for a reflash. Others have looked for an alternative including overseas with no luck. See viewtopic.php?f=5&t=59740

CRDphenox · **Posted:** Mon May 30, 2011 5:30 pm

Im proactivly swapping mine when I get my turbo kit so gde can write it into the tune so I dont have to deal with the tune later on.

flman · **Posted:** Mon May 30, 2011 5:35 pm

So who is going to sell their old ceramic GPs? The ones that don't break on the way out of course.

yakers · **Posted:** Tue May 31, 2011 12:09 am

flman wrote:

So who is going to sell their old ceramic GPs? The ones that don't break on the way out of course.

I have offered on two threads and I think others have offered as well. I had my GPs replaced and all came out intact. I had a code that two were bad and sure enough, two are a different color than the other two. Not sure which ones are the good ones but they would need to be tested in any case. Free for the cost of shipping.

Folks on this board have helped me with advice and more so I think its just part of being on the board that I will offer useful advice and surplus bits to others here.

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