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Author:  RedJeepCRD [ Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Filled the CRD with GAS!!!!
GEEZE.....what bone head thing to do. I pulled up to the gas station and filled the CRD up with gasoline. There where two fuel hoses, one for gas and one for diesel. I grabbed the wrong one. I drove about 1/2 mile before she died. Took me bleeding the line before I relized what I had done. DANGIT I had her towed home...thanks God for towing on my insurance. Anyways, it took me about two hours to pull the fuel tank, drain it, clean it out, replace the fuel filter/water seperator, and blow the fuel line out with air. Thankfully after all that and a quick priming and bleeding of the fuel line she fired right up. I'm glad I didn't do any serious damage to the Jeep, but I thought I would go ahead and confess that I made this bone head mistake and didn't tear anything up. If anyone needs to know how to drain the tank and fuel lines, just hollor, I'm a pro at it now.

Wes
Author:  Taz [ Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:35 pm ]
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Might want to check the oil and make sure that no gas washed down into it.
Author:  RedJeepCRD [ Sat Mar 04, 2006 6:22 pm ]
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10-4 thanks,

Wes
Author:  Clark [ Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:23 pm ]
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Taz wrote:
Might want to check the oil and make sure that no gas washed down into it.


Maybe check your transmission fluid too. And your differentials might have gas in them too. :roll:
Author:  RedJeepCRD [ Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:50 pm ]
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Check the diff and trans. oil, tasted right!! :wink:
Author:  BlackLibertyCRD [ Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:16 pm ]
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I remember when someone tried to put diesel in a Dodge pickup gasses. That didn't work either. :-)r Cleaned it out and fuel filter, luckly no damage.
Author:  n3qik [ Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:52 pm ]
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That's the hard way to prove how durable the CRD is. Most engines would have melted pistons and needed a new short block. Also would change the fuel filter in 50-100 miles, just in case there are any leftovers.
Author:  oldnavy [ Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:41 pm ]
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n3qik wrote:
That's the hard way to prove how durable the CRD is. Most engines would have melted pistons and needed a new short block. Also would change the fuel filter in 50-100 miles, just in case there are any leftovers.
It's not that big a deal really, I hate to think how many VW's and MB's over the years have had a tank of gas. Never heard of one having any permanate damage, just needing drained. Matter of fact lots of people have shot in enough gas to have a 25% mix or there abouts and drove out the gas/diesel combo. Had a friend drive a '84 MB 300D with about 30% mix of gas and 70% B100 (home brew), he just drove it and did frequent refills to dilute the mix. That was about 4 years ago and he is still driving the car daily, 100,000 miles later and the car is fine.

I remember the first time I filled up my Magnum after not even owning a gasser in years, I almost did the same thing at a twin pump. I had the nozzle in the tank, but realized I had the diesel side before I squeezed the handle. :shock:
Author:  RedJeepCRD [ Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:01 am ]
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Well I spoke with a deisel mech. earlier. He said that as long as the mix is less than 30% gas your fine, it will burn. He said a straight gas mix will not run because it will not ignite. I asked if he thought I did any damage and he said he was 99.99% sure that if it fired up and ran normal it would be fine. He said he had seen gasoline damage an old 350 chev. diesel but he added that they were not very good engines to begin with. He said the basic block the 2.8 is based on, was used as irrigation pumps for years. He said I wouldn't have to worry to much about it. Quote "They'll burn about anything, just not straight gas!" :oops:

Wes
Author:  oldnavy [ Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:45 am ]
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The ony thing likely to suffer damage is the IP, and if not run with a 20 to 30% gas mix but one time not eeven then. My wife called me once to tell me she pumped a couple gallons of gas into the Jetta TDI we had shortly after we bought it. She and a gal she works with were in IL shopping, and had stopped to top off the tank (B2) before getting back into town. I told her to finish filling (B2) and if it run and sound normal drive it home. She got home about an hour later and I had some B100 here and dumped into the tank. Never caused a problem, and she never did that again.
Author:  greiswig [ Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:48 am ]
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oldnavy wrote:
n3qik wrote:
That's the hard way to prove how durable the CRD is. Most engines would have melted pistons and needed a new short block. Also would change the fuel filter in 50-100 miles, just in case there are any leftovers.
It's not that big a deal really, I hate to think how many VW's and MB's over the years have had a tank of gas. Never heard of one having any permanate damage, just needing drained. Matter of fact lots of people have shot in enough gas to have a 25% mix or there abouts and drove out the gas/diesel combo. Had a friend drive a '84 MB 300D with about 30% mix of gas and 70% B100 (home brew), he just drove it and did frequent refills to dilute the mix. That was about 4 years ago and he is still driving the car daily, 100,000 miles later and the car is fine.

I remember the first time I filled up my Magnum after not even owning a gasser in years, I almost did the same thing at a twin pump. I had the nozzle in the tank, but realized I had the diesel side before I squeezed the handle. :shock:


Benz actually recommends diluting up to 25% gasoline in my '83 Unimog...but only when it's really cold outside!
Author:  Taz [ Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:09 pm ]
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Most Diesel engine manufacturers allow for up to 10% regular gasoline in the diesel fuel when designing fuel delivery system, things like the seals, hoses, pump, etc...
Author:  retmil46 [ Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:49 pm ]
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I think you just confirmed that the problems I had last December was from a clogged fuel filter, and that Lake Norman CJD was full of s### when they told me it was because I had gasoline contaminated fuel. I did a complete fillup from 1/8 tank, and if there had been enough gas in it to where it wouldn't run, it would have died in short order like yours, not gradually 80 miles down the road.
Author:  Derek Mc [ Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:11 pm ]
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Quite a few common rail diesels will run on petrol instead of diesel I know of a Passat with the new 2.0 litre 16 valve that was mistakenly filled with unleaded and got over half way through the tank before the fleet manager pointed out the petrol receipt to the driver concerned thinking he had snuck a tank of petrol for the Mrs's car only to realise.
The upshot was the exhaust had a different smell but nothing else even the dealer just said top up with diesel and keep topping off as often as possible.
And no it thankfully was NOT me :P
Author:  n3qik [ Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:42 pm ]
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Still I would hate to see what the tops of those pistons look like. I have read about 1 Duramax and 2 Kubota engines ruined due to gas in the fuel.
Author:  RedJeepCRD [ Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:26 pm ]
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Well lets hope the top of my pistons are fine, I only ran it about 1 min before it died.

Wes
Author:  naturist [ Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:19 pm ]
Post subject:  from what I've read here and there . . .
it appears that most of the modern diesels will still run, if perhaps roughly, with a small amount of gasoline in the blend. And, of course, they'll not run if you have mostly gasoline in the mix.

Where you get into trouble is if you have a mix such that they will run, but barely. That mix will cause injection pump failure, injector failure, burned pistons, and dandruff, not to mention athlete's foot.

Most of the folks who put enough gas in it to cause it to cease running as soon as the fuel from the filter runs through it will be fine. The ones who won't be so fine are the ones with the middling mixture.

In any case, the caveat stands: if you realize you've put gas in there, don't start it: too risky. Have it drained and all you need to do is drain the tank. Start that sucker, and you will have to drain/replace the fuel filter along with the lines, a big job and substantially more expensive. Ruin the injection pump, etc. and we're really talking about the big bucks. IP alone is probably $1,000.
Author:  jinstall [ Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:47 am ]
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greiswig wrote:
oldnavy wrote:
n3qik wrote:
That's the hard way to prove how durable the CRD is. Most engines would have melted pistons and needed a new short block. Also would change the fuel filter in 50-100 miles, just in case there are any leftovers.
It's not that big a deal really, I hate to think how many VW's and MB's over the years have had a tank of gas. Never heard of one having any permanate damage, just needing drained. Matter of fact lots of people have shot in enough gas to have a 25% mix or there abouts and drove out the gas/diesel combo. Had a friend drive a '84 MB 300D with about 30% mix of gas and 70% B100 (home brew), he just drove it and did frequent refills to dilute the mix. That was about 4 years ago and he is still driving the car daily, 100,000 miles later and the car is fine.

I remember the first time I filled up my Magnum after not even owning a gasser in years, I almost did the same thing at a twin pump. I had the nozzle in the tank, but realized I had the diesel side before I squeezed the handle. :shock:


Benz actually recommends diluting up to 25% gasoline in my '83 Unimog...but only when it's really cold outside!


Ah the Unimog, gotta love them I see tons of them everyday. Heard that they will start selling them in the US soon.
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