papaindigo wrote:
The 05 may or may not have a TracLok rear end as that was an option. The 06 will never have TracLok as it's incompatable with the ESP system that all 06 models have. Some love the ESP and some find it "helps" too much on twisty roads and don't like it. The 05 has a single speed sensor for both rear brakes while the 06 has one for each. Frankly I don't see much substantive difference between the 2 years (I have an 05 and my son has an 06). Brake size is the same at least the parts list has the same parts numbers for both years.
The timing belt change interval is 100K miles and I'd assume (you need to confirm this) that the 2012 new engine came with a new timing belt so the mileage count starts there. That said 2 thoughts: 1) something sounds a bit off with the 05 or maybe it's my suspicious nature but why is this person selling for $14.5k after putting $12k in the vehicle just 3 months ago that just sounds off enough that I'd want to circle back to the dealer and confirm that the work was done (I know this sounds really paranoid but I can create some really good fake dealer receipts) which leads to 2) you need to confirm with the dealer that the engine warranty is transferrable and how to transfer it, get that information in writing and make the sale completion contingent on the warranty actually being transferred to you and make sure the transfer is in writing. Paranoid I know but we have had folks burned on faulty warranty transfers. Late thought - the parts guys at a DC dealer can usually print out a report on a vehicle based on the VIN that should show all the work done on it by any DC dealer.
Assuming the 05 info is legit and you can get it for a good price I'd lean toward it based on the work done to date. From what I've seen a reasonable price for a CRD, either year, with ca. 75k miles on the engine is on the order of $11.5-$13.5 depending on condition and what extras are on the vehicle.
As for F-37 you can check for outstanding recallls using the VIN number on the section of the Jeep website for owners. The full F-37 to the best of my knowledge included a replacement torque convertor for all early 05s with the really early TC with the plastic part (don't worry about this if this 05 had that TC originally it would long since died and been replaced); a replacement TC if the 2n gen OEM TC had problems (uncommon but not unknown - no the Euro TC was not part of this) AND a ECU/TCM detune to reduce TC failures (don't ask me why a detune rather than a decent TC replacement). It's not uncommon to find a CRD that has had the F-37 but for whatever reason the detune was not done. The easy check is to drive the vehicle until it's a bit warmed up (tranny won't shift into higher gear until the fluid is warm enough) then on an open road slowly run the speed up to 65mph; if the last shift point is ca. 58mph the detune has not been done but if it's at ca. 62mph the detune has been done.
I'd also suggest you read Sir Sam's NOOB guide.
I have been as paranoid as you as well. I have read Sir Sam's noob guide. The 05 does in fact have all of the service records, however, the timing belt was not done when the long block was installed. I called the dealer and they have all the records, and confirmed the work done. The timing belt was opted to be re-used since it had not cracking and was clean. Very dumb, let me tell you. However, the 3 yr, 100k mile warranty from Chrysler only covers the long block, and lubricated parts that were bolted to it when it came in the crate. All bolt on items, like the water pump, or timing belt, would not be covered anyway. Those parts are only covered for 12mo. 12k miles. The 05 did have the ball joints done, as well as the rack and pinion. They guy selling it wanted to do it all right the first time, and is a farmer/ agriculture guy. He told me he never skimps out and I can tell by looking at the dealer invoices. I never would have spent more on parts than the jeep is worth, however, he did, and he knows it. Two injectors were replaced, as well as all of the glow plugs, updated to the stainless steel, away from the ceramic.
The 2006 I am looking at has about 80k miles, and they guy wants about $12K. I am leaning toward the cheaper newer one, since I am going to buy an extended warranty anyway, that will cover the timing belt, engine parts, if I take care of the belt at 100,000 miles. Oh, and I hate being upside down in my vehicle since I am going to finance it anyway. So, what do you think?
Here is the build specs I requested on the 05 from Jeep;
Sales Code Description
*N5 Cloth High-Back Bucket Seats
-D5 Med Slate Gray
AHMP Convenience Group I
AHT Trailer Tow Group
AJPS Power Convenience Group
APAS Monotone Paint
A46P 2.8LTD Eng(ENR)/5Spd A/T 545RFE(DGQ)
BAZS 136 Amp Alternator
BCVP 700 Amp Maintenance Free Battery
BRYP Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Brakes
CF5S 2nd Row Buckets, Power Fold/Tumble
CGS Supplemental Side Air Bags
CGUS Child Seat Anchor System-LATCH Ready
CG3S Advanced Multistage Front Air Bags**
CKCP Floor Carpet
CKNS Cargo Compartment Carpet
CKTS Cargo Tie Down Loops
CK3S Plastic Swing Gate Trim Panel
CLES Front & Rear Floor Mats
CLHP Cargo Trim Panel w/Storage Net
CSRS Passenger Assist Handles
CSWS Driver Assist Handle
CTLS Base Door Trim Panel
CUFS Full Length Floor Console
DGES All 5-Speed Automatic Transmissions
DGQ 5-Spd Automatic 545RFE Transmission
DHAP Lock-Up Torque Converter
DHPP Selec-Trac Full Time 4WD System
DJJS Dana 30/186MM Front Axle
DMEP 3.73 Rear Axle Ratio
DRAS Corporate 8.25 Rear Axle
DSA Anti-Spin Differential Rear Axle
ENR 2.8L I4 Turbo Diesel Engine
GBBS Tinted Windshield Glass
GCBS Front Door Tinted Glass
GEGP Deep Tint Sunscreen Glass
GEKS Flipper Swing Gate Glass
GFAS Rear Window Defroster
GNAS Rear View Day/Night Mirror
GNCP Sun Visors w/Illum Vanity Mirrors
GT9P Power Mirrors, Fold-Away
GVBC All Vehicles W/Power Mirrors
GXMP Remote Keyless Entry
GXXP Sentry Key Theft Deterrent System
HAAS Air Conditioning
I24S Route 24 - UP, Rolla, CO
JAYS Instrument Cluster w/Tach
JCBS 120 MPH Primary Speedometer
JHAS Var Intermittent Windshield Wipers
JHBS Rear Window Wiper/Washer
JJBS Dual Note Electric Horns
JJJS 12V Auxiliary Power Outlet
JJMP Auxiliary 12-Volt Rear Power Outlet
JKYS Power Accessory Delay
JPHP Speed Sensitive Power Locks
JPYS Pwr Windows, Front 1-Touch Down
K1LS STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
K3LS STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
LACP Illuminated Entry
LCDP Map/Dome Reading Lamps
LDBP Cargo Compartment Lamp
LHDS Headlamp Off Time Delay
LMAS Halogen Headlamps
LNJP Fog Lamps
LPSS CHMSL Lamp
LSES Enhanced Accident Response System
MDAS Front License Plate Bracket
MFKS Body Color Grille
MLCS Gray Fascias
MT2S Trail Rated Badge
MVCS Jeep Badge
MVDS 4X4 Badge
MWES Side Roof Rails
MZRP Common Rail Diesel Badge
NAA Federal Emissions
NB1P Federal Tier 2, Bin 10 Emissions
NFPS 20.5 Gallon Fuel Tank
NHKP Engine Block Heater
NHMP Speed Control
PBJ Atlantic Blue Pearl Coat
QBJS Atlantic Blue Pearl Coat
RAAC All Radio Equipped Vehicles
RBKS AM/FM Compact Disc Radio w/Chgr Ctrl
RCGS 6 Speakers
RDDS Fixed Long Mast Antenna
SBAS Power Rack and Pinion Steering
SCGP Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel
SDAS Normal Duty Suspension
SUAS Tilt Steering Column
TBBS Full Size Spare Tire
TBRS Outside Tire Carrier
TR7S P225/75R16 OWL All Season Tires
TZAP Goodyear Brand Tires
WKBS Matching Spare Wheel
WLDP 16X7.0 Lux Aluminum Wheels
WLZC All Aluminum Wheels
XCAS Occupant Classification System
XFJP Class III Receiver Hitch
XFKP 7 Pin Wiring Harness
XFLP 7 to 4 Pin Wiring Adaptor
XGGS Grocery Bag Hooks
XJFS Tethered Fuel Filler Cap
XPFS Protective Coating and Remover
YAAS Build To U.S. Mkt. Specifications
Engine ENR- 2.8L I4 Turbo Diesel Engine
Transmission DGQ- 5-Spd Automatic 545RFE Transmission