MRausch82 wrote:
tjkj2002 wrote:
MRausch82 wrote:
Yep... old news. I doubt they will target the CRD... but who knows. I am sure there are still ways around it...
Your tunes effect emisions with the almost total deactivation of the egr.
I've been seeing also they have been pulling over and towing diesels for "rolling coal",granted it's those idiots with 12" stacks and billowing black smoke so thick you can't see your hand in front of your face but it won't take long to start noticing others.
Well as we know the EGR is actually BAD for the engine. The tunes from GDE result in LOWER than stock emissions WITH the EGR. I don't have one. I have the ORM. I get less smoke and better MPG. Better MPG means lower emissions due to less fuel consumption. It's pretty simple. I know people have been pulled over due to excessive smoke. I had this issue on an old Volvo diesel, but the cop was unaware that it was a diesel despite the big "DIESEL" badge on the trunk. He said: "Sir, you did nothing wrong, but you are blowing a lot of smoke." I replied: "Oh, it's a diesel." His reply: "Oh, is it? Well carry on, and good luck getting home." Those were the exact words. Guess he thought my 30 year old diesel was not capable of being reliable, haha. Never heard of anyone getting towed. Regardless, I doubt anyone is worried. I sure am not. Where there is a will, there's a way... and a way around things if they try to be jerks, which likely won't happen to us "limited production" CRD owners... Most don't even know that the Liberty ever came with a diesel...\
By the way... this paragraph from the article was comical to me:
"The company, located in Ogden, Utah, sold more than 9,000 of these devices nationwide, over the period of January 2009 through April 2011. This resulted in an estimated 158 tons of excess PM emissions—equivalent to the emissions from 422 new long-haul semi trucks operating for a period of 29 years, according to the EPA."The EPA has used VERY fuzzy math before, this would be yet another example. They frequently use giant measures (tons, lbs, etc) to describe something that comes from the tailpipe as a GAS and extremely lightweight dust / carbon. They also have been shown to be on a witchhunt against diesels for several decades now, for the simple fact that particulate matter can be seen.
ALL combustion creates the same resultant items: carbon dioxide, particulates (soot of carbon) nitrogen oxides, carbon monoxide. The difference is in how much of each, and how large the particles are.
The EPA would have you believe that particulate matter from a diesel (15 micron+ in size), can "penetrate deep into the lungs and cause emphysema and asthma" while the particulates from gasoline engines (less than 5 micron down to less than 1 micron) somehow never get mentioned or considered in the same way.
IIRC, the human lungs are capable of filtering naturally down to about 10 microns in size. Anything larger, gets easily trapped in the mucous and expelled. How is it then, that ONLY diesel exhaust causes disease, when gasoline engines outnumber diesels 15-1 in this country, operate far more (by simple scale) and DON'T cause diseases?
Google 'the weekend smog effect' for some interesting reading on what happens when all the evil dirty polluting diesels go home for the weekend... And smog actually gets WORSE until they start up again on Monday. Why? Because smaller particles can stay suspended in the air longer - MUCH longer, where heavier particles cannot (think minutes versus possibly days) and could actually attract and catch the smaller particles because of static charge. Diesels might actually be cleaning the air of gasoline soot, simply by running!
Frankly... Car diesels are such a small percentage of the road population in the USA, and tuned versions even a smaller percentage of that group... I don't think we have much to be concerned about. Thanks for attempting some fear-mongering by spouting the EPA's anti-diesel rhetoric, but the logic doesn't wash.
Besides, the biggest benefit to our CRD community: Edge doesn't manufacture ANYTHING for us that does one thing with the emissions. The ONLY product we can buy is a "cheater chip" that messes with the fuel and boost pressure readings. Unsafely, I might add.
If they offer anything for on-road usage that did break the DPF or EGR... It isn't for our motors.
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