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 Post subject: my 05 possibly has the Ignition Switch problem
PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:44 pm 
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acts like it is in gear when you the key

I guess it could be the battery also , but it does not even try the starter and lights do not dim

I going to looking at it tomorrow

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 Post subject: Re: my 05 possibly has the Ignition Switch problem
PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:23 am 
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I assume you are saying when you turn the key the engine doesn't start, correct? Assuming the battery is ok could be:
1. broken plastic rod in the ignition key switch
2. bad ignition switch
3. park/neutral interlock not working right.

Take a look at viewtopic.php?f=5&t=60575&hilit=ignition+switch&start=20 and viewtopic.php?f=5&t=61233&p=678574&hilit=+brother#p678574 . It's the "rod" see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5m31g0- ... plpp_video for a how to replace video.

Interlock check per geordi "Pull the shield off the top of the gear shifter, there are 2 small cables in there; the passenger-side one is the sensor cable, it's not electrical, it's an aircraft wire; the sensor is actually located under the steering wheel. Unhooked, problem solved permanently. I thought of a quick way to test the actuator cable without pulling anything apart on the shifter console - With the engine off and in park, pull back slightly on the shifter to apply tension, and try cranking the engine. If it doesn't go... The cable is the culprit b/c the tolerance (and how much it moves normally) isn't much. The cable is pushed toward the front of the vehicle when the selector is in park, and just shifts backwards slightly when the selector is anywhere else. All you need to do is unclip the end of the cable, and push the end into the sheath until it stops (about 1/4") and tuck it away in there. This won't affect anything else in the operation of your CRD, the shift interlock (that foot-on-brake-to-shift) idiot switch will still be there and functioning... Unless that 2-wire connector happens to "fall out" like it did on mine. Strange how that happens sometimes. "

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 Post subject: Re: my 05 possibly has the Ignition Switch problem
PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:44 am 
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what does it mean when you short the starter relay and it does nothing

bad starter ?


I am waiting for my parts from rockauto , if it is not the switch/rod , I will have them when it is

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 Post subject: Re: my 05 possibly has the Ignition Switch problem
PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:43 pm 
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I don't know. Take a look at my post immediately above tZac's shorting instructions in the 2n link since he says if jumping doesn't work try what I said in that post.

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 Post subject: Re: my 05 possibly has the Ignition Switch problem
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:03 pm 
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I am begining to think my problem is the starter .

Battery = good
I can feel the key turning the switch so rod is not broke , that switch could be bad , but If I understand it

jumpering the starter relay should engage the starter , but it does not

I have not looked at the starter , how hard is it to get to and which side is it on ?

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 Post subject: Re: my 05 possibly has the Ignition Switch problem
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:45 pm 
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Driver's side under the fuel filter. Shouldn't be too hard to get too if you pull the fuel filter head assembly.

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