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| Author: | pwrwagn [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Is the chime on the inst cluster? |
I'm ready to just kill that thing. No, I don't need lectures about wearing my seat belt, I do. But the passenger seat belt detection AND my buckle switch both appear to be broken or non-functional, and the chime is just headache inducing. Is it on the cluster itself, or somewhere else? I just need to get rid of it. |
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| Author: | geordi [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is the chime on the inst cluster? |
I don't know exactly where it is located (I hate that thing too) but it should be located between the steering column and the centerline of the dashboard. Your best bet to locating it will be to remove all the pull-off and screw-off covers that you can easily get to, and start feeling around while it is binging. On a previous vehicle, the chime was a small box about 2 inches square, with a hole or grille on one side that was easily felt. When your hand is over the hole or grille... The sound changes. I realize that isn't a huge amount of knowledge, but hopefully it does help. |
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| Author: | pwrwagn [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is the chime on the inst cluster? |
I found my .PDF version of the manual and look what's in the introduction (I never read those... gads...) Quote: The chime warning system uses an electromechanical transducer that is soldered onto the electronic circuit board inside of the ElectroMechanical Instrument Cluster (EMIC) to provide audible indications of various vehicle conditions that may require the attention of the vehicle operator or occupants (Fig. 1). So, I'm pulling the cluster and it's going to DIE today... |
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| Author: | geordi [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is the chime on the inst cluster? |
If it is the type I am thinking of - all you have to do is cut the top of it off and remove the brass disc that is inside. That disc is what makes the noise. Good luck! |
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| Author: | pwrwagn [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is the chime on the inst cluster? |
Silence is golden. I used a soldering iron to melt the solder to both wires, while prying it away from the board. Eventually, I got enough space to stick needle nose pliers behind it and VIOLA!, one wire vanished  It's black, about the diameter of a quarter, a half inch tall or so, and it's behind the top left part of the speedometer. |
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| Author: | MRausch82 [ Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is the chime on the inst cluster? |
You can disable it (for the seat belt) by doing something like buckling and unbuckling it so many times within so long of turning the key on, or some such thing. I did it to my CRD and to my wife's Patriot. Disassembling and removing parts isn't necessary! |
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| Author: | papaindigo [ Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is the chime on the inst cluster? |
Mike the OPs entire saga with this issue is not in this string. Apparently there is/was an electrical gremlin in his system such that even with the seat belt fastened the chime was more or less constant. You are correct that the Enhanced Warning System (BeltAlert) can be shut off, per the owner's manual, by a key on/off seat belt buckled/unbuckled sequence. I mentioned this in the other string on this topic but that trick did not work. Best guess is somewhere between the seat belt buckle and the chime there is a failure in the system to recognize that the seat belt is, in fact, fastened. Alternatively the Enhanced Warning System (BeltAlert) is "stuck" in the on position. Jim |
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| Author: | sailwa66 [ Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is the chime on the inst cluster? |
Thanks for the tip, pwrwagn! |
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| Author: | pwrwagn [ Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is the chime on the inst cluster? |
papaindigo wrote: Mike the OPs entire saga with this issue is not in this string. Apparently there is/was an electrical gremlin in his system such that even with the seat belt fastened the chime was more or less constant. You are correct that the Enhanced Warning System (BeltAlert) can be shut off, per the owner's manual, by a key on/off seat belt buckled/unbuckled sequence. I mentioned this in the other string on this topic but that trick did not work. Best guess is somewhere between the seat belt buckle and the chime there is a failure in the system to recognize that the seat belt is, in fact, fastened. Alternatively the Enhanced Warning System (BeltAlert) is "stuck" in the on position. Jim It chimed for 3 minutes, every time you started up and drove it. It made my ears hurt. After much fiddling, rather than throw money at it, I simply removed the chime. |
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