What was the sticker price? Been waiting for one to show up at a local dealer.Not gonna buy it just wanna check it out.

Lots of "forecasters" are saying will have good sales then dropping off. Not much price difference than the 2500. Others are saying it's not a Cummin's.
If I ever replace my KK I'm going back to a pickup and would consider a diesel.

I took a trip off from my rail job so I can bring my Libby to get some work done, mostly Suncoast TC and other minor work. I noticed that the Ram 1500 that was en-route to a local dealership had arrived (I was actively checking 8 local dealerships). So, what did I do? I took the short trip to the dealership to take a test drive.

They brought it around to me, so it was running when I walked outside. I was amazed at how nice and quiet it was. I was up and under and all around that thing. Few things I noticed mechanically.
[*]Transmission pan is ribbed and aluminum, sort of like a Mag-hytec pan.
[*]Oil drain looks to be just just higher than the crossmember. I may be scared to put a Fumoto valve.
[*]Fan is a nice big electric
[*]There is so much available information on the multi-display. Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, Transmission Temp, Water Temp were the things I remembered.

Not driving a pickup since the 90s, I wasn't use to the harder ride, but it was comfortable. 1st gear, even with the 3.55 gears, was really low. Just like the CRD, it took a second to build a little boost to get full power. There were no problems accelerating. The transmission selection will take time to get use to. The rotary dial is different, and the +/- gear selection on the steering wheel was convenient. Just like my Caliber, if you want to go from manual selection to automatic, just hole the + or - button for a few seconds.

Driving was nice and quiet. Basically, you could not tell that it was a diesel. It was enjoyable.

Reasons why did I not buy it now.
1) No Integrated Trailer Brake. That is a deal breaker.
2) No Trailer Tow Mirrors. Deal breaker #2
3) 3.55 gears instead of 3.92 gears. 1000lb difference in tow rating.
4) Not an Outdoorsman with the LT tires. This is not a deal breaker, as I would get aftermarket rims and tires.
5) Bucket seats instead of 40/20/40 bench seat. Again, not a must have, but we occasionally want to have 6 people to go places and not want to take 2 vehicles.

On the way home, I spotted my first Libby CRD since July of last year. I need to make cards to hand out about this site.

A few corrections:

*The trans pan on the ZF 8spd is plastic, not aluminum.
*Oil pressure in the EVIC is a model, not real pressure (only a switch on the engine)
*LT tires not available on diesel models
*3.92 available only with 20" tires
*E-fan size depends on what you want to do with the truck

3.92 axle is the way to go BTW.

Masshole,

The 3.92 gears give the truck 1000 pound more "tow rating" than the 3.55 gears. I made this chart up to show the differences.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/501 ... 0Chart.pdf

flman

The ZF is an 8 speed automatic. There are 2 models. 1 for the V6 gasser, and a more robust one for the Hemi/Diesel.
The Motor is VM.

Does the ZF transmission have the ability to lock out individual overdrive gears? In the liberty when you lock out overdrive you are in 3rd gear.

Unless you need to tow over the 6900lbs I would stay with the 3.55's. The rpms are too high with the 3.92's and your mileage will be lower on the highway. The torque curve will allow good use of the 3.55 gear. If the top gear was a 3.73 I might consider it. They had the same issue when they changed from 3.55 to 3.73 in the 2500 with the Cummin's.

Almost $44,000

It is ridic how expensive cars/trucks are getting these days. (Not just Dodge). Honestly, give me a simpler truck with the Diesel and an honest price...otherwise

Almost $44,000

It is ridic how expensive cars/trucks are getting these days. (Not just Dodge). Honestly, give me a simpler truck with the Diesel and an honest price...otherwise