vtdog wrote:
You NEVER can win at a dealer, they are more slippery than synthetic oil. In any event, I did not want Dodge in '05 and don't want it now, so dealer will have to make profit on someone else.
What do you define as "Winning at a dealership" then? After having been a salesman and manager at three dealerships myself, I kinda get ticked off by people with your opinion. Now I'm not saying that every dealership is good nor that I would stick up for them altogether, it seems that the common perception by the consumer is that the dealership can ALWAYS provide a better deal and should always do so.
Any customer has ever started any form of arguement with me aimed at pricing, I always ask, "Well what do you think we should sell it for?" If you are selling anything wouldn't you want to get the most for it? I would say that most dealerships will provide you with a deal that is fair to both parties, if its not good enough for you then try going to another dealership to try your chances. People have this idea of a "Best Deal" on a vehicle that supercedes any other deal anyone can get them, I say avoid pulling teeth over any vehicle deal and just accept anything you can honestly afford rather than trying to get "The Best Deal."
One instance I like to bring up, while working at a dealership in Central Illinois a customer was interested in a new 2005 Dodge Ram for about $32k. He claimed that some place in Alabama had a similiar truck with more options for only $25k and told me to get down to at least that price or he wouldn't deal. I told him directly, "Look we can't get anywhere near that price. If you really want that truck in Alabama then I suggest you drive to Alabama and buy it. We'll even give you some money and you can bring us back a few because we'd like to sell trucks that cheap too!" He actually ended up signing papers and driving our truck off the lot within an hour or so
oz_crd wrote:
Hero,
I was looking at a '04 Subaru Forester. I was really just killing time while my CRD got looked at. The main thing that put me off completely was the salesman seemingly being coached to avoid telling me how much they wanted for it...
...To tell you the truth, driving that Forester felt like I was sitting on the road after driving our CRD for the last year, not to mention the lack of that Oomph! when you hit the accellerator.
I would guess that the dealership might have been "buried" in that Subaru. "Buried" is a term that car sales types use to describe a used vehicle that they have either gave to little for to trade, invested too much money into for repairs/etc., or whatever other reason that would lead to them either overpricing it or would not allow them to meet their margin of profit needed in any deal. If a salesman is reluctant to tell you the price is usually means that the vehicle is "buried" and you probably should not consider dealing on it
And yes, its a no brainer to choose a CRD over just about any Subaru
Just don't tell any of my Subaru buddies I said that!
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