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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:17 am 
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Ever since a couple of months ago I was just surfing the net when I landed on Hummers WEB site. They even let you compare the H2 or H3 with all sorts of vehicles including our KJ's. Just for giggles is ran a comparisson. Much to my surprise and great pleasure , the KJ beat them out on both approach and departure angles, Leg room and seat room. The KJ beat it in almost every catagory and Milage Yes once again the Girly Jeep Beat out the Big Bad Hummer.
So If you want to whine or Snivel about the milage think of those high rollers who spent 4 times as much to get less then a KJ. And you to will laugh from one Fill up to the Next. :lol: :lol: :twisted: :lol: :-)r :-)r :-)r :-)r :-)r

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Donnie wrote:
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What does it matter if big truck gets the same mpg?


Because I would much rather have something with more room and more power...that costs less to drive.


Hate to say it, but you could have got a Honda Odessy MiniVan then. The KJ is not the right choice if room and mileage are your criteria.

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DarbyWalters wrote:
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What does it matter if big truck gets the same mpg?


Because I would much rather have something with more room and more power...that costs less to drive.


Hate to say it, but you could have got a Honda Odessy MiniVan then. The KJ is not the right choice if room and mileage are your criteria.


Your missing the point. I could get a bigger truck, that has 340 horsepower rather 180. That has twice the room as the KJ. I wouldn't have to downgrade to a minivan, that's the point of my thread. I could go out any buy what's known as a gas guzzler and get better mileage, with a much more fun vehicle.


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I drive about 90% highway. I consistently get 21 MPG. That's at about 65-70 mph the entire route. 72 miles per day round trip. I suppose if I drove 60-65 I could get that number up to 22-23 MPG....but that's the way it goes.

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Your missing the point. I could get a bigger truck, that has 340 horsepower rather 180. That has twice the room as the KJ. I wouldn't have to downgrade to a minivan, that's the point of my thread. I could go out any buy what's known as a gas guzzler and get better mileage, with a much more fun vehicle.


TDI Jetta wagon if you want fuel economy, comfort, and cargo space. if you want to go off road, your choices are limited as far as fuel efficient vehicles are concerned. the FJ, H2 and H3, Xterra, all get crappy gas mileage. I think the H3's will be improved with the 5.3L V8, but you're still gonna be paying 30 grand+. Are higher car payments REALLY worth fuel economy? I don't think so.


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Your missing the point. I could get a bigger truck, that has 340 horsepower rather 180. That has twice the room as the KJ. I wouldn't have to downgrade to a minivan, that's the point of my thread. I could go out any buy what's known as a gas guzzler and get better mileage, with a much more fun vehicle.
If you don't like it get something else,don't complain about it----IT'S A JEEP THING!!!!!!!!

Bad gas mileage,breaking down,alot of squeaks and rattles are part of owning a Jeep,always have and hope it always will be.Oh and the ability to go places other "so called" SUV's(I personnally consider my Jeep a RV or simply a Jeep,not a SUV) can't go.


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Your missing the point. I could get a bigger truck, that has 340 horsepower rather 180. That has twice the room as the KJ. I wouldn't have to downgrade to a minivan, that's the point of my thread. I could go out any buy what's known as a gas guzzler and get better mileage, with a much more fun vehicle.
If you don't like it get something else,don't complain about it----IT'S A JEEP THING!!!!!!!!


LOL, please. I'll be getting a new ride when I graduate from college next year, and keeping the Heap as the winter beater.


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My Quad Cab 4x4 Cummins with the factory SFA get’s around 25-26 mpg on the highway. It’s taken a lot of modifications to make it happen as you can see in my signature, but it can be done. In my diesel fuel I mix Power Service with the cetane additive and I add approximately 1 oz to 1 gallon of outboard 2 cycle TC-W3 low ash non-synthetic engine oil for extra lubrication and fuel economy. Oh, by the way, WORKHORSE makes a module for the CRD. The Workhorse is really amazing and increases power and mileage significantly. But, I love my Liberty and value it as a true JEEP.

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I'm getting a little over 16mpg on mine, the trips down to denver and back up are a little pricey in gas but I new what I was getting into, doesn't bother me too much. I keep it pretty close to home (15 min to work, bank, post office, etc.) most of the time.

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tjkj2002 wrote:
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Your missing the point. I could get a bigger truck, that has 340 horsepower rather 180. That has twice the room as the KJ. I wouldn't have to downgrade to a minivan, that's the point of my thread. I could go out any buy what's known as a gas guzzler and get better mileage, with a much more fun vehicle.
If you don't like it get something else,don't complain about it----IT'S A JEEP THING!!!!!!!!

Bad gas mileage,breaking down,alot of squeaks and rattles are part of owning a Jeep,always have and hope it always will be.Oh and the ability to go places other "so called" SUV's(I personnally consider my Jeep a RV or simply a Jeep,not a SUV) can't go.


I agree with ya but I have had some sort of 4WD since back in the 70s and ALL have been modified, so I never notice any squeaks , rattles, bad mileage etc, have never know what that was like anyways, my Jeep is my DD, my fun machine, tow trailers, drag logs out the woods for the wood stove, have plowed out potatoes with it, so I consider it several vehicles in one and at that its cheap to own!

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donnie, i completely get what youre saying, that a dodge ram, ford expedition, ford f150/250 and the like will yeild the same, if not better mileage in some cases and are much much more roomier and more fun to drive (still trying to figure out how a house on wheels is fun to drive, lol) than the kj. however, for a 4,000 pound jeep being pulled by one of the lowest HP/Liter ratios of a 6 cylinder engine (in the kjs class of course) with 4 forward geards on the slush box, i think anything over 15mpg is reasonable for this setup, anything over 18 is good and anything over 20 is stellar!

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Not sure what I get all the time. I have had my jeep since last March and I've only checked the MPG once shortly after I bought it on a trip to norther WI. I Averaged 21 MPG highway with the air on. I havent checked it since. I didn't buy it for the gas mileage.

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LOL, please. I'll be getting a new ride when I graduate from college next year, and keeping the Heap as the winter beater.


stinky poo, this is the first time Ive heard a Liberty called a "beater" jeep :roll: :lol: Must be nice to have that kinda money...or parents money... :twisted:

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I'm getting 14-1/2 to 15 mpg. I noticed a difference after the lift and bigger tires (DUH!). I'm pretty happy with this due to my mods and knowing what some others get. And, yes, with the winter grade gasoline as well. I expect more of a drop when I install ARB bumper, armour, & roof basket. :)

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Donnie wrote:

Your missing the point. I could get a bigger truck, that has 340 horsepower rather 180. That has twice the room as the KJ. I wouldn't have to downgrade to a minivan, that's the point of my thread. I could go out any buy what's known as a gas guzzler and get better mileage, with a much more fun vehicle.


Ive got to disagree alittle. The Hemi WK we have gets worse mpg than my kj and Im sure a hemi gets alot worse if it was in the ram. I like to think that my Jeep gets good MPG when compared to it since it gets around 12mpg city and I can get 17mpg easy. :)

Ill agree that having a Hemi is way to much fun though!

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Interesting thread... My wife and I really like our Jeep Lib, it does everything very well. We've had a trouble ownership since new and currently stand at 67,000 miles. The ONLY thing we have been disappointed in was the mileage but compared to others in the same class... We're fine. Compared to other's comments here we're not doing to bad. I'm adding a lift next week along with taller tire too... Once I establish the mpg, I'll start making a few mpg tweaks then.

<chuckling> What dieselenthusiast said... My 2004.5 1 ton Dodge 4x4 4dr long bed 6sp bla bla bla regulary out performs the Liberty when it comes to mpg - it peeves the wife. LOL.

I'll share a story, jason thompson mentioned a GPS... I had a 1986 Dodge Diplomat Police car years ago and bought taller tires. To make a long story short. I was crusing 75mph (indicated) in a 70mph zone and was ticketed going 83mph! I bought a small GPS and checked the speed-o. Yep, the radar wasn't lying.

If you've got a GPS unit (borrow one if not) check your speedometer and odometer, you'll find even with the OEM wheel/tire combo there are errors from the manufacturer. Never trust the LED overhead console, they are not always accurate either. And if you've got a taller tire than factory equipment size... Check out the speedometer/odometer, you may be floored.

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I have always had a 4x4. None of them ever got what is considered good gas mileage. But my KJ will go places a car won't. It will tow 5000#. It is fun to drive. It is a keeper. I have a car that gets much better gas mileage. The car won't tow the boat. It won't clear a 4" speed bump if I am going over 2 mph. It won't go off road. It is not as much fun to drive.

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And the people in the back don't get cold and wet.................... :)

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Holy sheep dip! I just read what I had written some time ago in my earlier thread, "We've had a trouble ownership since new..." I meant to say, "we've had trouble FREE ownership..." Geez. Sorry.
I love the the wife's Liberty.

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Love Einstein; love the quote............................ :lol:

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