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darn it! I have the 245/70r/16 and i really want the soft 8s 16x8....so just to confirm I WOULD need a lift with this setup so theres no rubbing right?

(or any aftermarket wheel with the same backspacing and offset as a factory wheel) and 245-70-16 tire you wont rub

im not positive what the factory wheel backspacing is

akilgore23

sorry guys but I think im still getting conflicting answers
and thank you for all your responses
so 16x7 soft 8s with a 4 in BS and 245/70s will rub on my non lifted kj correct?

Pre-Lowered; Cragar Black D-Window; 235/75 Firestone Destination A/T

So 16x7 Cragar soft 8's with 4" BS will stick the tires out a little giving it a little wider stance correct?

501 wrote:

So 16x7 Cragar soft 8's with 4" BS will stick the tires out a little giving it a little wider stance correct?

Yes it will stick out 1.5" more than stock wheels (5.5" BS). You don't want to go less than 4" BS.

Author:	akilgore23 [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:20 pm ]
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So I can get an idea

Author:	RAYMAN975 [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:55 pm ]
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here ya go

Author:	akilgore23 [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:46 pm ]
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thank u Rayman. Just a quick question. Are u lifted and is there any rubbing with the 245/70/16 and the cragers? oh and it looks awsome!!

Author:	RAYMAN975 [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:52 pm ]
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NO lift that was my old wheels, they were 15x7, with i THINK 4" or 4.25" backspacing, so they stuck out farther than the stock wheels, which made them more prone to rubbing, which was pretty close to the pinch weld and behind the foglight, but no it didnt rub. the tires were 235-75-15, which is almost EXACTLY same as the stock 235-70-16

Author:	akilgore23 [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:11 pm ]
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darn it! I have the 245/70r/16 and i really want the soft 8s 16x8....so just to confirm I WOULD need a lift with this setup so theres no rubbing right?

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Author:	tjkj2002 [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:16 pm ]
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akilgore23 wrote: darn it! I have the 245/70r/16 and i really want the soft 8s 16x8....so just to confirm I WOULD need a lift with this setup so theres no rubbing right? Yes you will need a lift to run the 245/70's on 16x8 rims.I believe Jeepjeepster has a lift with MOAB's(16x8 with 5" BS) and 245/70's and he says he has some rubbing still.

Author:	RAYMAN975 [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:18 pm ]
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no you dont need a lift. right now i have 16x7 factory aluminum wheels, with 245-70-16 tires and it doesnt rub. so if you already have the 245-70-16 tires, all you need is a 16" cragar wheel, i would recomend a 16x7 wheel with the 245 tire instead of the 16x8, it will look much better, just my opinion though and yes, as tjkj said, the rubbing will be a matter depending what backspacing you go with on the wheel, but with a 16" factory wheel(or any aftermarket wheel with the same backspacing and offset as a factory wheel) and 245-70-16 tire you wont rub

Author:	tommudd [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:18 pm ]
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just run a 16 X7 with the 245 70s and you will be good. Why go with 8s unless you want to lift, bigger tire etc

Author:	tjkj2002 [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:25 pm ]
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Quote: (or any aftermarket wheel with the same backspacing and offset as a factory wheel) and 245-70-16 tire you wont rub That's the thing,there are no aftermarket 16" rims with the same BS as the OEM rims,unless you go to a 9"+ wide rim.

Author:	RAYMAN975 [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:44 pm ]
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ahh ok i see. thats probably why i got that backspacing on my cragers that made them stick out father than stock when i got them

Author:	akilgore23 [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:46 pm ]
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sorry guys but I think im still getting conflicting answers and thank you for all your responses so 16x7 soft 8s with a 4 in BS and 245/70s will rub on my non lifted kj correct?

Author:	RAYMAN975 [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:53 pm ]
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im not positive what the factory wheel backspacing is this might help too http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/vie ... ackspacing yea backspacing can be confusing on rims

Author:	jeepkj02 [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:58 pm ]
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Pre-Lowered; 16x7 Cragar Black D-Window w/4" BS; 235/70 Firestone Destination A/T

Author:	tjkj2002 [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:59 pm ]
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RAYMAN975 wrote: im not positive what the factory wheel backspacing is OEM BS is 5.5". Quote: akilgore23 sorry guys but I think im still getting conflicting answers and thank you for all your responses so 16x7 soft 8s with a 4 in BS and 245/70s will rub on my non lifted kj correct? You'll rub,245/70's will not rub if mounted on OEM rims which are 16x7 with 5.5" of BS,going to the same size rim with only 4" of BS will move the tire out 1 1/2" farther then the stock rim.You'd be fine with 235/70's but going to has some really nice rubbing with the 245/70's.You can trim the front to(and pound down the pinchweld)minimize the rubbing,the rear is a whole lot harder.As long as you don't flex the rear very much you'd be fine.Just how much are you willing to cut to make them fit is the ? you need to ask yourself. Quote: Pre-Lowered; Cragar Black D-Window; 235/75 Firestone Destination A/T yep on a pre-lowered Kj you'd have no problems but a '04 Kj is a lowered kj(lowered 3/4").I ran 245/75 MT/R's(on the OEM rims) on my non-lifted KJ for 6 months with no rub when I first bought it,that 3/4" more hieght was real handy.

Author:	David Jr [ Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:12 pm ]
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i'm still on 225-70-r16s, so if i wanted to do this i shouldn't have any problems? I'm thinking of getting these rims.

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Author:	akilgore23 [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:11 pm ]
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Got it thanks guys I finally got an idea of what I need to get ....again thanks

Author:	ProjektKJ [ Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:22 pm ]
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i just recently installed some unique 297's on mine which are exactly the same as soft 8's... mine are 16x7 with the standard bs which i think is 4.5? anyways im running some 235/70's on it and as far and have had no problems with the set up at all. highly suggest getting some for yourself totally changes the look of the jeep

Author:	501 [ Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:52 pm ]
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So 16x7 Cragar soft 8's with 4" BS will stick the tires out a little giving it a little wider stance correct?

Author:	jeepkj02 [ Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:44 pm ]
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501 wrote: So 16x7 Cragar soft 8's with 4" BS will stick the tires out a little giving it a little wider stance correct? Yes it will stick out 1.5" more than stock wheels (5.5" BS). You don't want to go less than 4" BS.

Author:	501 [ Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:33 pm ]
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jeepkj02 wrote: 501 wrote: So 16x7 Cragar soft 8's with 4" BS will stick the tires out a little giving it a little wider stance correct? Yes it will stick out 1.5" more than stock wheels (5.5" BS). You don't want to go less than 4" BS. Thanks, sounds like the setup I want.