TSL VS MT/R

0311_DoC · **Posted:** Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:05 am

dieselenthusiast wrote:

DOC, I would consider the Toyo Open Country M/T. They don’t chunk like the MT/R and many reviewers have said they lasted longer, had better on-road manners, were quieter, and were better on rocks than MT/R's. However, I think the new Kevlar MT/R might be a good choice.

I don't think they have the Toyo's in the 31X10.50X15's at least I didn't see any.... but it was one of my original choices

dieselenthusiast · **Posted:** Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:46 am

0311_DoC wrote:

dieselenthusiast wrote:

DOC, I would consider the Toyo Open Country M/T. They don’t chunk like the MT/R and many reviewers have said they lasted longer, had better on-road manners, were quieter, and were better on rocks than MT/R's. However, I think the new Kevlar MT/R might be a good choice.

I don't think they have the Toyo's in the 31X10.50X15's at least I didn't see any.... but it was one of my original choices

Yes they do:
31X10.50R15 LT C
rim width: 7.0" - 9.0"
Diameter: 31.1" as measured on a 8.5 rim. Taller on a 7" rim.
Width: 10.7"
Tread Depth: 19/32

http://www.toyotires.com/tire/pattern/open-country-mt
Click on sizes and specifications

nosnorb_808 · **Posted:** Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:17 pm

I had TSL SX Super Swampers on a previous vehicle I owned. They work awesome on rocks, mud, whatever. I dont know how much difference they are from TSL's but I like the SX personally.

0311_DoC · **Posted:** Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:13 pm

dieselenthusiast wrote:

0311_DoC wrote:

dieselenthusiast wrote:

DOC, I would consider the Toyo Open Country M/T. They don’t chunk like the MT/R and many reviewers have said they lasted longer, had better on-road manners, were quieter, and were better on rocks than MT/R's. However, I think the new Kevlar MT/R might be a good choice.

I don't think they have the Toyo's in the 31X10.50X15's at least I didn't see any.... but it was one of my original choices

Yes they do:
31X10.50R15 LT C
rim width: 7.0" - 9.0"
Diameter: 31.1" as measured on a 8.5 rim. Taller on a 7" rim.
Width: 10.7"
Tread Depth: 19/32

http://www.toyotires.com/tire/pattern/open-country-mt
Click on sizes and specifications

HMM well when I do a search for them at any tire place like discount or 4 wheel parts etc they say they don't carry them

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:33 pm

Avoid the SX's at all cost,the sidewalls crack real bad after a few weeks.

0311_DoC · **Posted:** Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:43 pm

dieselenthusiast wrote:

0311_DoC wrote:

dieselenthusiast wrote:

DOC, I would consider the Toyo Open Country M/T. They don’t chunk like the MT/R and many reviewers have said they lasted longer, had better on-road manners, were quieter, and were better on rocks than MT/R's. However, I think the new Kevlar MT/R might be a good choice.

I don't think they have the Toyo's in the 31X10.50X15's at least I didn't see any.... but it was one of my original choices

Yes they do:
31X10.50R15 LT C
rim width: 7.0" - 9.0"
Diameter: 31.1" as measured on a 8.5 rim. Taller on a 7" rim.
Width: 10.7"
Tread Depth: 19/32

http://www.toyotires.com/tire/pattern/open-country-mt
Click on sizes and specifications

only found them online at one site
http://www.1010tires.com/tire.asp?tirebrand=Toyo&tiremodel=Open+Country+M%2FT

not very cheap per tire. compare to the MTR's

http://www.1010tires.com/tire.asp?tirebrand=Goodyear&tiremodel=Wrangler+MT%2FR

nosnorb_808 · **Posted:** Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:43 pm

tjkj2002 wrote:

Avoid the SX's at all cost,the sidewalls crack real bad after a few weeks.

The sidewalls crack? I used to run SX's on my old Toyota pickup back in Hawaii all the time. Never had the sidewalls crack. Alot of friends of mine used SX's also with no problems. Do you think maybe you got a bad batch or something?

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:42 pm

nosnorb_808 wrote:

tjkj2002 wrote:

Avoid the SX's at all cost,the sidewalls crack real bad after a few weeks.

The sidewalls crack? I used to run SX's on my old Toyota pickup back in Hawaii all the time. Never had the sidewalls crack. Alot of friends of mine used SX's also with no problems. Do you think maybe you got a bad batch or something?

A bad batch of 5000 tires? Not thinking it's possible for that many.

Inc · **Posted:** Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:45 pm

tjkj2002 wrote:

nosnorb_808 wrote:

tjkj2002 wrote:

Avoid the SX's at all cost,the sidewalls crack real bad after a few weeks.

The sidewalls crack? I used to run SX's on my old Toyota pickup back in Hawaii all the time. Never had the sidewalls crack. Alot of friends of mine used SX's also with no problems. Do you think maybe you got a bad batch or something?

A bad batch of 5000 tires? Not thinking it's possible for that many.

How did you come across 5,000 tires anyway?

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:18 pm

Inc wrote:

tjkj2002 wrote:

nosnorb_808 wrote:

tjkj2002 wrote:

Avoid the SX's at all cost,the sidewalls crack real bad after a few weeks.

The sidewalls crack? I used to run SX's on my old Toyota pickup back in Hawaii all the time. Never had the sidewalls crack. Alot of friends of mine used SX's also with no problems. Do you think maybe you got a bad batch or something?

A bad batch of 5000 tires? Not thinking it's possible for that many.

How did you come across 5,000 tires anyway?

Iraq,had to un-install about 100 or so and send them and the rest back due to severe cracking of the sidewalls,it's a widely known that the SX's have a bad habit of sidewall cracks.At least the 2000 Optima RedTops worked perfectly in the 145 degree+ temps.

Inc · **Posted:** Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:21 pm

I never knew the Army used Swampers, that is pretty cool.

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:24 pm

Inc wrote:

I never knew the Army used Swampers, that is pretty cool.

Those and the Pernelli Dirt Grips,MT/R's(why finding 35" MT/R's state side is nearly impossible,dang SF :twisted:

),along with the GoodYear MT's.Though the army has a bad taste with interco over the SX failure.

Inc · **Posted:** Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:31 pm

tjkj2002 wrote:

Inc wrote:

I never knew the Army used Swampers, that is pretty cool.

Those and the Pernelli Dirt Grips,MT/R's(why finding 35" MT/R's state side is nearly impossible,dang SF :twisted:

),along with the GoodYear MT's.Though the army has a bad taste with interco over the SX failure.

I knew about the Goodyear MTs, but that is all. Those Dirt Grips are some cool tires.

nosnorb_808 · **Posted:** Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:37 pm

Ive been in the army for 9yrs & never came across some Super Swamper SX equipped vehicles, But then again I guess Im not SF. How long ago was this? Iraq weather & terrain good have been 1/2 the problem also.

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:46 pm

nosnorb_808 wrote:

Ive been in the army for 9yrs & never came across some Super Swamper SX equipped vehicles, But then again I guess Im not SF. How long ago was this? Iraq weather & terrain good have been 1/2 the problem also.

OIF I,was only authrized for a short time on HMMWV's but the SX ordeal killed that real quick,now mainly SF and Marine RECON use other tires besides the MT's on non-tactical vehicles only in combat zones.

nosnorb_808 · **Posted:** Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:49 pm

I learn something new everyday.

InCommando · **Posted:** Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:35 am

Much of the TSL line ROCKS on rocks.

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