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kinda sad. I was hoping to see that black liberty with some dura tracs :twisted:

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stumpjumper_09 wrote:
kinda sad. I was hoping to see that black liberty with some dura tracs :twisted:


ordering tonight

will not say what kind or size yet :twisted:

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boy that would be a slap in the face for some people if one of our senior members got the walmart tires :!: :twisted: :lol: :lol:

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Going Duratracs, same price as WalMarts actually a little less, taken a week of dealing but they finally agreed to meet my price
265-75-16 Duratracs coming to a Black KJ near me SOON

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what's wrong with WalMart?


I believe they are the #1 offender to our economy personally. Lower prices at any cost is the problem. Countless small (and large!) business were singlehandedly destroyed by walmart. They sell everything and have a buying power that nobody can compete with. They are almost like a retail monopoly. They force suppliers to give it to them cheap or don't sell it. They buy tons of Chinese foreign goods, putting our people out of work and then tout that they bring our communities jobs. Joy, just what we wanted, to lose our business and then get an $8/hr job at walmart.

Its basically a vicious cylce. Les jobs means less money for consumers, have to go somewhere cheap to shop, walmart gets more money and power, other businesses get hurt as they spread / increase offerings. Now there are even less jobs, people have less money, have to shop somewhere cheap...etc etc.

Now it is true that I shop there on a regular basis, and probably spend more $ there than anywhere else. But it makes me sick. I'm not exactly rolling in cash and you have to do what you have to do to get by. And walmart has crushed the grocery stores in my area. Even the biggest and best chain has sold out and become more convenience store-like with higher prices, fewer offerings.

I'm not looking forward to the retail landscape in this country in 20-30 years. It's going to be a desolate place. Maybe if it wasn't them it would be someone else. Either way I cringe when I see new walmarts going up. Almost as much as I do when I see one move across the highway from its old location, leaving a monstrous building that will likely never be filled efficiently, as well as a many acre parking lot wreaking havoc on the watershed / drainage in the area.

Think about this, would you rather start one of these businesses next to a walmart or 100 miles away: Grocery store, Music store, electronics store, hardware store, home store, pharmacy, pet shop, furniture store, photo developer, deli, etc etc etc....

Sorry for the long post. I don't blame people for shopping there. But I can't believe how many people don't realize what it's doing to this country. Bottom line: if you can afford to, shop somewhere else. Maybe you'll still have a choice where you would like to shop in 20 years. Some larger cities probably don't see the problem, but in a town like mine, of 60-70 thousand people where industry is drying up, they are killing off the rest. And this is the second town I've lived in where this was a problem.

Edit: To me along with much of what happens on wall street & foreign cars, walmart is one of the ugliest parts of capitolism. I'm not saying capitolism itself is bad. I love that you can work hard, learn, and take risks and improve your situation in this country. But just like with people insisting on buying toyota and honda, shopping at walmart is a failure of capitolism in that to better your situation (cheaper cd's, "longer lasting cars") you have to destroy your neighbor, and now he doesn't have money to buy your goods, so you do worse. Though it may take years to come full circle, it has to eventually, no way around it.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. The "I'll do what's best for me and screw the rest of you" mentality eventually will come back around and screw me. Shopping at walmart or buying a toyota is definitely not what's good for the gander...

Ok I'm done with my rant, sorry for going off topic and going all over the place with this...

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Geesh! I was going to buy tires at Walmart now you got me running scared! :(

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I was going to get these tires at Wal-Mart but the wife and I only go there as a last resort. So, I went to TreadRight Tires instead. I feel better about it also.

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saw a set of these on a grand last night. Looked pretty good but still like the duratracs better

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I have been looking at these tires for months. I have talked to techs that have put these tires on vehicles and gotten feedback. They say that they last for a long time and are a great quality however they have alot of road noise. I'm not concerned with that, can't be any worse than the noises that my jeep currently has. (rock rails that rattle,humming tires,noisy roof rack and squeaky springs) They look like a nice beefy tire and I certainly don't buy the bull that they are a cheaper tire because they simply are not.

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I actually bought one of the Walmarts Authoritys ( knowing I could return it) and took it to match up to the Goodyear Duratrac.
The Duratrac had some extras in the tread that I liked better, tread pattern, the little design down in the tread that helps to clean mud and snow out, little winged feet on the side :roll: etc. Plus when the shop saw the Walmart tire, and knew that I had priced the Duratracs on different web sites they beat the price of Walmart/ Tire Rack even.

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So how much trimming would I need to do to run the 265/75/16? I run 245/70/16 and I dont have any rubbing since being lifted. Prior to the lift it was minimal at full lock.

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Plus when the shop saw the Walmart tire, and knew that I had priced the Duratracs on different web sites they beat the price of Walmart/ Tire Rack even.



what website did you use tom?

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So how much trimming would I need to do to run the 265/75/16? I run 245/70/16 and I dont have any rubbing since being lifted. Prior to the lift it was minimal at full lock.


Depends on your lift/ front bumper as to how much trimming
Not to be a jerk but if you have the Rustys spring lift then no way, most have problems with a 245-75-16 and thats with extra clevis lift, trimming etc. They settle too much

245-70-16s are 29.5 inches tall
265-75-16s are 31.8 inchs tall
doesn't sound like much until you install them

I didn't do any at all but then with the ARB that helps plus I've "added" some to my lift over normal lifts

PLUS then get ready to regear to 4.10s cause you will lose 2 to 3 miles per gallon

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Plus when the shop saw the Walmart tire, and knew that I had priced the Duratracs on different web sites they beat the price of Walmart/ Tire Rack even.



what website did you use tom?


all the major including Tirerack and a couple more I can't remember the name of now ,also the various tire dealers, any where I could find prices for the Goodyears. I had 11 quotes from various places when I dealt. Tried to deal with Goodyear directly, one of their stores did not even know they had a tire called a DuraTrac :shock:
Another would not talk to me as he said I was unreasonable in saying that 265-75s would fit on a Liberty. Another Goodyear wanted 198. each for them plus taxes. Since installing I have returned to each Goodyear store and had the saleman go out and look! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh and the tires I got came out of the Goodyear warehouse here in town where they all get their tires! was real funny.


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hey tom how do your 265's actually measure compared to the claimed height?
My 245/75/16 duratracs on stock renny wheels only measure about 29.25

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