General Grabber AT LT235 85R16

2005KJSport · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:08 am

I have been looking for new tires and found someone with a set of 4 General Grabber AT LT235 85R16 which are almost brand new (only a few thousand miles) and for a good price.

My question is that I currently have an unlifted 2005 Liberty Sport. Will these tires fit okay for normal driving? I assume I will feel some rub at hard turns.

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:31 am

No - they're almost 32" - they'll rub everywhere without a lift.

without a lift - Darby ran 235/75/16's - which is 29.8" l

most folks stay at the 245/70/16 - 29.6" without a lift or trimming.

aandlwoods · **Joined:** Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:53 pm **Posts:** 96

even jeepinbyal's 4 inch kit only recommends 235/85/16.

JL Rockies · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:54 am

I run that size with a Franky.

2005KJSport · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:06 pm

So my current stock tires are 235/70R16 and I now have someone else offering 235/75R16...Would these be okay without a lift?

tommudd · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:36 pm

2005KJSport wrote:

So my current stock tires are 235/70R16 and I now have someone else offering 235/75R16...Would these be okay without a lift?

you may have some rubbing when fully locked

Milner · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:48 pm

I have them with 2.5" lift. I would NOT reccommend that size without a lift and even then you better be willing to trim some....

tommudd · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:52 pm

Milner wrote:

I have them with 2.5" lift. I would NOT reccommend that size without a lift and even then you better be willing to trim some....

235-75-16s rub with a lift? :shock:

its only a 29 inch tire

what kind of 2.5 inch lift do you have?

KJ Taz · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:55 pm

tommudd wrote:

Milner wrote:

I have them with 2.5" lift. I would NOT reccommend that size without a lift and even then you better be willing to trim some....

235-75-16s rub with a lift? :shock:

its only a 29 inch tire

what kind of 2.5 inch lift do you have?

Sounds more like he is running 245'/75R16's.

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:51 pm

I think Milner is running 235/85/16 (although the title of his photo post was 245/85/16)

Darby ran 235/75/16 stock and lots of folks have run 245/70/16 stock (or at most minor trimming on fender liners)

Milner · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:34 pm

My reply was to the OP. Yes I have 235/85/16's on stock wheels with 2.5" crusty's

InCommando · **Posted:** Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:32 pm

The 235/75/16 is an unusual size but it can be found.

2oose · **Posted:** Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:49 pm

I just installed Firestone 245 75 16 on stock steel rims. I have 2wd and a 2.4. I only get rubbing at max turn but it is only hitting the plastic well. If I don't cut it it's no big deal. HOWEVER with more rolling resistance because of the extra width (which I am grateful for) my mileage has dropped from 24.3 to 21.1.

Benefits:
Rides like a totally different vehicle. Feels solid and stable.
RPM down (28.4 " to a 30.5" tire) 75mph is now 2800 rpm not 3050rpm.
Corners better.
Looks great.
I can go all the way across the street in 1st. gear.
In each gear longer. More comfortable to drive.
Drawbacks:
3 mpg less (checked over 4 tank fulls) I was hoping for more mileage w/ these tires.
Down shifting out of 5th gear more.
Hills and bridges are more work.

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:39 pm

2oose

Welcome to LOST -
fyi on your mpg calculation - if you're just taking the odometer mileage - you're now off about 7%
The larger tire shows a lower mileage for the same number of revolutions - so your 21.1 would really be 22.5
- but downshifting is a mileage killer.

2oose · **Posted:** Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:15 pm

You are very close. Actually based on mileage markers I add 8% to my mileage total. I even took the newly installed K&N filter out of the air box just to make sure I was comparing apples w/ apples. A couple more tanks and I'll put the K&N back in. It may sound crazy but I really suspect the K&N is actually hurting mileage!

tommudd · **Posted:** Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:21 pm

2oose wrote:

You are very close. Actually based on mileage markers I add 8% to my mileage total. I even took the newly installed K&N filter out of the air box just to make sure I was comparing apples w/ apples. A couple more tanks and I'll put the K&N back in. It may sound crazy but I really suspect the K&N is actually hurting mileage!

a very quiet hint...
sell the K&N and get an Amsoil filter ..it really does help :wink:

2oose · **Posted:** Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:10 pm

100 + mile trip up the Turnpike checking mileage markers. 7% is correct. 20.3mpg

(high winds didn't help but I have the aerodynamics of a brick)
As far as the Amsoil filter, I should have thought of that first since I have an account with them!

I think I saw on this board about cutting a additional 2.5" hole in the air box w/ a flex hose to cold air. Any Validity??

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