Hey everyone, I had a user name on here a little while back as BlackKKSport but somethin happened and its gone. So I'm back here with a new name, and now a formerly leased Jeep, in MY name now haha. Well since I have bought the Jeep I wanna do some basic mods.. Heres what I'm looking at:

First off, everything is currently stock, Sport 16" rims, standard suspension etc. If I were looking to get the largest tire to fit my stock rims it would be a 235/70R16, right?

I'm looking at the Bridgestone All-Terrain T/A® KOs. I've seen a few people recommend them on here and I'm looking for something a little more aggressive than the Goodyear Wranglers that came stock on my Jeep. I don't plan to do real intense off-roading, but I just want a beefier tire for looks and one that also performs on road, in snow/rain etc..

That being said, I'm also thinking about upgrading my stock rims to a set of the Cragar Soft 8s in black. My question gets a bit trickier now.. I'm looking at the 16x7's with the standard 5x4.5 bolt pattern. Would I still want the 235/70R16's? Remember I'm looking for the biggest tire I can fit with no lift or cutting.

Also... I have a line on a 08 Wrangler Unlimited that a friend of mine might be selling soon. If I were to buy that could I swap the Cragars and Bridgestones from my Libby? I know the bolt pattern is the same, and I know there wouldn't be any issues with rubbing on the Wrangler due to the significantly larger wheel well.

However.... I've noticed alot of people putting the 16x8's on Wranglers instead of 16x7's. So I'm thinkin a little wider tire can't hurt... but would a 16x8 fit on my Liberty? And if I were to get the 8's what tire size would I need?


I know its a bit complex and long winded but I did use the Search function and gathered some solid intel thus far. I just wanna make sure I do the right thing before ordering all this stuff and finding out it won't bolt on to my Jeep. Well thanks in advance for any input or advice on this stuff! Either way, now that I've re-registered and since I actually own this Jeep I'll be be around the boards more. This is my 3rd (and by no means last!) Jeep, so I'm looking forward to making this one stick out a bit from the crowd. Thanks again, and sorry for the long post!

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08 Black Sport
Black Cragar Soft 8s
Bridgestone A/T Dueler Revo2s 245/70/16
Blacked out headlights/turn signals and smoked tails

"I don't believe in a lot of things, but I do believe in duct tape"- Miles Straume

Stock rims and suspension will fit 245/75/16 without rub. The bolt pattern is NOT the same from the Liberty to the Wrangler. 16x8 will fit with 5" of backspacing, which is what I currently have on. I would opt for 16x7 because they will be lighter because my Jeep feels like a turd with the heavy rims and tires on. I'm not totally positive on what tires would fit with the 16x7 cragars and no rub because the offset would be different from stock.

Wow thanks for the quick reply! Hmm Now I'm really glad I came in here and checked. I thought the bolt pattern was the same on both the Liberty and Wrangler. That might keep me from getting the wheels entirely, but I'm still not sure if I'm gonna end up in the Wrangler yet. Well thanks for the insight!

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08 Black Sport
Black Cragar Soft 8s
Bridgestone A/T Dueler Revo2s 245/70/16
Blacked out headlights/turn signals and smoked tails

"I don't believe in a lot of things, but I do believe in duct tape"- Miles Straume

Sure thing. Btw for future reference the bolt pattern on TJs are 5x4.5 like all Libertys. The new JK Wranglers are 5x5.

Ahh gotcha, I didn't realize the JKs had a different pattern than the TJs.

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08 Black Sport
Black Cragar Soft 8s
Bridgestone A/T Dueler Revo2s 245/70/16
Blacked out headlights/turn signals and smoked tails

"I don't believe in a lot of things, but I do believe in duct tape"- Miles Straume

newby qustion i just bought a 08 kk yesterday and im looking for a set of wheels somebody put some ugly 20 inch rims on it so i thought that the bolt pattern was 5-114? or at leats that is what tire rack said. so is it 5x 4.5?

It is 5x4.5 or 5x114.3 (NOT 114 or 115) they are the same size but one is standard measurement and other is metric