Rock Guards/Sliders?

mawlkrawler · **Posted:** Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:32 pm

I love my RL sliders. they work great. supports look good and everything lines up great

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JeepNCrowd · **Posted:** Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:57 pm

I didn't see any pics of the JCR stage 3's, so here you go.
I like mine and they have taken some damage, but just cosmetic. (a small dent on the outer tube)

Of course I can't compare because these are the only ones I've owned. I chose these over RL because at the time RL's ends (near the wheel wells) were angled opposite to how you see them on mine. I think RL has since changed their design. I also like the way JCR tube angles up, vs straight out. It works just fine to stand on to reach stuff on the roof.

WhiteRider · **Posted:** Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:45 am

I'm leaning towards getting the JCR's. Looks as though the rectangular slider on the underside of the rocker panel is a little wider than the others, and I like the angled rail also.
I'm wondering if anybody has tried doing something like in this pic?

tommudd · **Posted:** Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:31 am

RLs are way better built, cross bracing etc are almost over kill, but you never have to worry about them. Not sure how you think its wider but what ever you like. One of the reasons I don't like the JCRs is the angled rail, but then mines high enough I use them as a step. My 80 year old Mother would never get in mine if I had the JCRs. Plus they stick out just the width of the tire so you can put them against something and spin your self around. I've had others on mine and helped install JCRs they're good, but

mredmond · **Posted:** Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:20 pm

JeepNCrowd wrote:

I didn't see any pics of the JCR stage 3's, so here you go.
I like mine and they have taken some damage, but just cosmetic. (a small dent on the outer tube)

You seem like you wheel your rig pretty hard; would you say that the JCRs are strong enough for you and hold up to the abuse pretty well? And apparently are stable enough to stand on?

OneCheekRider · **Posted:** Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:15 pm

I have the JCR stage 2 on my KJ. They've definitely been a worthwhile purchase and have taken some heavy abuse. Just sand and respray as needed and they look like new. I use them all the time as a boost to get the roof - great dual purpose.

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JeepNCrowd · **Posted:** Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:58 pm

mredmond wrote:

JeepNCrowd wrote:

I didn't see any pics of the JCR stage 3's, so here you go.
I like mine and they have taken some damage, but just cosmetic. (a small dent on the outer tube)

You seem like you wheel your rig pretty hard; would you say that the JCRs are strong enough for you and hold up to the abuse pretty well? And apparently are stable enough to stand on?

I've managed to put a pretty good ding in the outer tube, but have yet to damage the actual underside. Every time I go wheeling I have new areas where the paint has been scraped off on the under side, but I just wa sh it off and apply a new layer of spray paint. I think as far as strength and durability goes RL and JCR are about equal. Both companies offer a money back guarantee, and are reputable. Again its just preference. Jcr took about 1 month or so for my sliders to arrive.

But which ever you get be sure you get the bar (angled or straight). It will help protect you on the trail or st the very least in the parking lot. A little while ago I was sitting in my jeep when an old man parked next to me in a some kind of older luxery style car, and threw his door open. I heard a LOUD bang and look over, he looked at me (embarrased I assume) and got back in his car. I just laughed. I later looked at the slider snd all it suffered was a scratch in the paint. I just touched it up with spray paint and it was good to go. My door was unharmed, but I can't imagine what the ding in his door looked like. :ROTFL:

The only problem with the upangled tube is that it doesn't make a good step to get into the vehice. Its an almost the same height as the door so its pointless, but it works fine to reach stuff on the roof.

WhiteRider · **Posted:** Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:05 am

No, not "what ever you like". How I think the JCR's rectangular portion of the slider is wider, is based on the pictures other people have posted, and what I have seen on the manufacturers web sites. Perhaps we should take a vote? Who thinks the JCR's rectangular portion of the slider is wider, than RL's slider?

The first picture below is of the JCR slider, the second is a RL slider.

Now, that being said - I'm not debating whether the RL's are stronger or more durable, and in fact, I agree with Tommudd about something... the fact that the RL's "cross bracing etc are almost over kill".

Tommudd, although you seem to think you know everything about anything Jeep (and I'm sure other forum members "pumping your tires" really makes you feel even stronger about that), I can't remember the last post I read from you with anything constructive or thought provoking to say.
...Not that I want anything to do with your 80 year old mother, but once I have the JCR's on my KK - I'd guess she gets in my KK just fine.

mredmond · **Posted:** Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:54 am

WhiteRider wrote:

Tommudd, although you seem to think you know everything about anything Jeep (and I'm sure other forum members "pumping your tires" really makes you feel even stronger about that), I can't remember the last post I read from you with anything constructive or thought provoking to say.
...Not that I want anything to do with your 80 year old mother, but once I have the JCR's on my KK - I'd guess she gets in my KK just fine.

Tom does get a little sarcastically spunky sometimes, but I have to admit I've actually benefitted a great deal from his posts. At the very least just for the laughs I get from his responses to some of the clueless ones out on these forums (myself not entirely excluded...) :-)r

Also, I'm sure you're right on that last part, but we all have to admit that Toms KJ does sit a few inches higher than any KK in existence (with the exception of perhaps that one SFA monster which might not even really count as a KK)...

Back to rock rails though, the JCRs definitely look wider. Pictures are extremely hard to judge by though, so I couldn't say how much wider. However, that only makes me wish even more it had the extra support leg of the RLs to support that extra weight. Honestly though, I'm sure either of these will be great. If you're like us and want angled tubes, go JCR. Otherwise, RL seems plenty good.

Bmxer524 · **Posted:** Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:22 am

mredmond wrote:

Also, I'm sure you're right on that last part, but we all have to admit that Toms KJ does sit a few inches higher than any KK in existence (with the exception of perhaps that one SFA monster which might not even really count as a KK)...

Wouldn't be so quick to say that. You haven't met a few of the members sitting at or over 4" like Toms. Only problem is they aren't very active lately. Give it some time, they'll pop up again lol. Or go through the KK tech section to see a few of them.

Anyways, WhiteRider, I definitely think the RL sliders are stronger. As for the 1 piece being wider, I honestly don't know. It could very well just be an illusion of the photo. Why don't we just have someone with JCR sliders measure their's and someone with RL sliders measure their's?

mredmond · **Posted:** Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:42 am

Bmxer524 wrote:

Wouldn't be so quick to say that. You haven't met a few of the members sitting at or over 4" like Toms. Only problem is they aren't very active lately. Give it some time, they'll pop up again lol. Or go through the KK tech section to see a few of them.

Man, where have these guys been hiding! I've only started posted recently, but I've been crawling the threads for several months. The only guys I've seem running 32s (properly) were Hislop and the guy who's silver KK is in the JBA 4" pictures (forgot his name). I know there's two guys who ran custom lifts with 33s, but even theirs didn't seem to sit quite as well as Tom's...I definitely want these guys to come out of hiding though so I can see their setup!

Bmxer524 · **Posted:** Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:55 am

mredmond wrote:

Bmxer524 wrote:

Wouldn't be so quick to say that. You haven't met a few of the members sitting at or over 4" like Toms. Only problem is they aren't very active lately. Give it some time, they'll pop up again lol. Or go through the KK tech section to see a few of them.

Man, where have these guys been hiding! I've only started posted recently, but I've been crawling the threads for several months. The only guys I've seem running 32s (properly) were Hislop and the guy who's silver KK is in the JBA 4" pictures (forgot his name). I know there's two guys who ran custom lifts with 33s, but even theirs didn't seem to sit quite as well as Tom's...I definitely want these guys to come out of hiding though so I can see their setup!

Hislop sold his KK for a Kia(neede better mileage as his job was making him drive more) a long time ago. Ended up selling his lift to lfhoward(kinda jealous here. lfhoward beat me by an hour and got a sweet deal on that 4" lift lol). You're also thinking about E2. I think that was his name. He was one of the first guys with the 4" lifts. He floats around from time to time here. Not sure what happened to Bobelmoche, I think he was a little over 4" with 33s. Also some other guy I know had 33s, but I don't remember his name nor what happened to him. Digger is also sitting at 4" but idk if he up'd to 32s. I know he's pretty busy and I heard he's getting some of the 08 issues lately. One of the last big ones right now is Jeepin_it_real. He's over 4" and running 32s with no problems. Haven't even seen himin a while, even outside of the forums, so I'm assuming work is taking up most of his time.

jeeplikens · **Posted:** Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:12 am

I put JCR sliders on my KK almost 2 years go. They don't show them on the website but I think they were like level 3's?

They stick out to the side more than others and I've yet to skin my shins :pepper:

as some people have. They server another purpose. They stick out enough to keep idiots who need a barn door to get out of their car. I had some lady yell at me once because she dinged the side of her door REALLY BAD after getting acquainted with my rails. The ONLY thing I don't like about them is they collect mud and don't seem to want to let go, then as soon as you step out of the Jeep, the mud jumps ship onto the back of your leg (aka pants). :furious:

jeeplikens · **Posted:** Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:04 am

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The only problem with the up angled tube is that it doesn't make a good step to get into the vehicle. Its an almost the same height as the door so its pointless, but it works fine to reach stuff on the roof.

Mine isn't bent up (it lost out with a flip of a nickel). I've modified the way I climb in and out of my KK with these rails. I step in using my left foot first, slide into the driver’s seat. Just had to make sure I didn't run my head into the top of the door jam. :dizzy:

But they do REALLY protect the doors (from mall zombies) and with a lift, they are almost like a roll bar on the side adding a little more protection from being t-boned anything short of a Honda accord. :banghead:

JeepNCrowd · **Posted:** Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:38 am

jeeplikens wrote:

They stick out to the side more than others and I've yet to skin my shins :pepper:

as some people have. They server another purpose. They stick out enough to keep idiots who need a barn door to get out of their car. I had some lady yell at me once because she dinged the side of her door REALLY BAD after getting acquainted with my rails. The ONLY thing I don't like about them is they collect mud and don't seem to want to let go, then as soon as you step out of the Jeep, the mud jumps ship onto the back of your leg (aka pants). :furious:

I don't know why she yelled at you, had those sliders not been there she'd have dinged both your door and her door. If she'd yelled at me I'd have laughed in her face. :ROTFL:

The mud thing is the same with the angled bars as well. Many of times I had the back of my pants coated in mud as I got out. I always forget to try and step over the bar. My wife got mad at me when she got her pants dirty when I took her somewhere and the Jeep was muddy. :furious:

jeeplikens · **Posted:** Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:10 am

JeepNCrowd wrote:

jeeplikens wrote:

I don't know why she yelled at you,

This is Michigan. Women born here don't need a reason to yell at you.. They just yell. Nothing is ever their fault and if you try to point that out, they yell even more. :banghead:

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