I was impressed... the guys at Allpar seem to have put together an honest review on the KK. Impressive.

http://www.allpar.com/reviews/2008/liberty.html

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If you want to know the truth about almost anything auto related Allpar is the place to find it.

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Brian, Blue KJ in PA
LOST#99, Mid-Atlantic LOST
Blue 2003 KJ Sport

RL Super Skinks

Yup, they are pretty much the most reliable source of information out there these days... Seems to me that all the other magazines are too busy trying to sell subscriptions rather than talk about the a noticable comeback from the american car manufactuers.

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02 Liberty Limited
Silver Outside & Taupe Inside
Heated Seats, Sunroof & Infinity speakers
USA Spec I-Pod adaptor, Mopar Sub, Garmin GPS
Tow Package, Select-Trac
Rock Rails, Tow Hooks

Just remember that AllPar only reports on the Chrysler Family of products...so they also might be skewed a bit. I say read them all before you drive one and then figure it out for yourself...you are the only one who truly knows what you need and like...and it is your $$$ afterall!

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2006 CRD Sport
Mods: GDE Hot Tune w/ 364#@2000rpm/Air Box /3" Str8 Exhaust/ASFIR Alum Skids/245-75R-16 Cooper STT PRO/OME LIFT w/Clevis & 4 Spring Isos/AirTabs/Rigid 10" S2 LED/4xGuard Ctr Matrix Bumper
Drag Strip:Reac=.1078_60ft=2.224_1/8=10.39@64.8mph_1/4+16.46@80.8mph

I thought it was a pretty good, well detailed article. It glossed over a few negative points but considering it has a Chrysler bias I think it was fair and balanced. I wouldn't have wanted it to have been the only article I read before getting my Jeep, but I've seen a lot worse, some of which were on "authoritative" sites.

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2008 Jeep Liberty Limited - Silver Metallic
Auto Transmission, Selec-Trac II, 16" Wheels (Wrangler SR-A), Factory Skids, Tow Pkg, MyGig, Premium Group II, Sunroof

I'm driving a new Liberty right now because my '07 is in the shop with a radiator leak. So far I'm just neutral on it. Doesn't seem much different from the '07. Same goofy transmission. Feels about the same when driving.

I don't like the hood as much as the old Liberty. I think the old ones had more style. Seats were a little more comforatable. I think it was quieter inside also. Not much different though.

Some strange new things under the hood:
No tranny cooler, no power steering cooler (at least not that I can see).
Battery has fabric wrapped around it.
The air intake to the air filter box is now an enclosed tube wrapped in fabric.

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2007 Jeep Liberty Sport
Not Just Red..............Inferno Red !
Automatic, 4WD
Mopar Skids, Tow Hooks

The tranny and power steering coolers were optional equipment that came as part of the towing package on the KJ. I'm sure it's the same on the KK. Your loaner probably doesn't have the towing package.

But... you say it has the same goofy transmission. There's been a good deal of talk about this, with people that have owned both saying that the KK doesn't exhibit that awful torque-converter locked up, can't choose between 2nd & 3rd problem that the KKs have. Can you elaborate more about what you mean by goofy transmission?

The '08 I'm driving seems to act the same as the '07. It's between 3rd and 4th gear that it likes to switch back & forth. Still does it. On my '07 I fix this by deactivating overdrive. On the new ones they have a tow/haul button next to the shifter.

The more recent old-style Libertys all come with power steering and tranny coolers. I have no tow package on mine and have both coolers. I checked the parking lot when I was buying last year and they all had them........unless a manual tranny........then just power steering cooler.

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2007 Jeep Liberty Sport
Not Just Red..............Inferno Red !
Automatic, 4WD
Mopar Skids, Tow Hooks

power steering cooler is standard. its that thing that lives in the lower grill. Stick you head down there, you'll see it.

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08 KK OEM skid plates, JK winch bumper w/ Hella 500s, K&N filter, JKS front discos, black out headlights w/ fogs added, blacked out & euro mod tail lights, Curt Hitch w/ oem wiring, OME Springs, JBA UCA & top plates, Cabin Filter Retro Fit, Custom Fender Mounted Light Mounts w/ Hella 500s, ATH roof bars, rear flush mount LEDs

yep, just look between where the tow hooks are/should be

here is the intake



battery

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2008 KK Liberty Sport NIGHT OPS EDITION + GILLS
OEM & Custom Skids - Factory Tow Package - Rock Lizard Skink Super Sliders
Prototype JBA 4 Inch Lift - JBA UCA's - Flowmaster Super 44 OR - Whacked Resonator
Jet Stage 2 - RL Gecko Basket Rack - Custom Winch Bumper - Recon 10.5K Winch

not true, allpar l.l.c. also runs (and owns) a site called toyoland that reports on toyotas, lexus and scion. statement of ownership is at the bottom of the homepage on toyoland. here is the link:

http://www.toyoland.com/

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06 kj 3.7 nsg 370 np 241 dark khaki

Oh, right about the power steering cooler, my mistake. But I'm pretty sure the tranny cooler is optional equipment as part of the tow package. It's listed as such on my '06 KJ with said package.

There is no 4th gear. There's 3 + OD. I find my KJ can't choose between 2nd & 3rd when climbing hills at about 42mph (you know, 7 over the speed limit). I tried turning off the OD but that did nothing. To make it behave correctly, I have to put it in 2 and let the tach read 2600 until I crest the hill.



That's awesome. I had no idea toyoland existed. Given that I have a KJ and a Tacoma, I'm interested in both of these sites. Thanks!

From what I can gather at the dealerships lot, the tranny cooler is built into the A/C condenser on ALL model KK's.

If they do not have a tranny cooler on all KK's then you all need to add one. That 42rle wont last at all.

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