Jeepin' by Al 2" lift

unclejjg · **Posted:** Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:13 pm

Happy Day! Jeepin' by Al just updated their site and now offer a 2" lift. This will be my first aftermarket purchase when my Jeep is delivered!!!

Awesome!

http://jeepinbyal.com/prod-2_5__Lift_Sp ... K-609.aspx

MNKK · **Posted:** Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:18 pm

It doesn't fit the 09's though.

Kidding. But, no, that would be funny.

Diggerfreek · **Posted:** Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:26 pm

hmmm

E2 · **Posted:** Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:19 am

So the $793 only gets you the front kit. Yeah not sure who would only get the front kit. I guess it would lift the front up about 1" higher than the rear so you would have a slight california lift. Or you could have a spacer lift in the back, but doing that would only save you in parts $50.... Not worth the savings!

I do have some questions:

1. Why would one want the AL's A-arms? What do they do for you??

2. What is the difference between the Hydro and Nitro Gas shocks?? If towing does it matter?

3. What are the quick disconnects??

Thanks!

Diggerfreek · **Posted:** Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:18 am

E2 wrote:

So the $793 only gets you the front kit. Yeah not sure who would only get the front kit. I guess it would lift the front up about 1" higher than the rear so you would have a slight california lift. Or you could have a spacer lift in the back, but doing that would only save you in parts $50.... Not worth the savings!

I do have some questions:

1. Why would one want the AL's A-arms? What do they do for you??

2. What is the difference between the Hydro and Nitro Gas shocks?? If towing does it matter?

3. What are the quick disconnects??

Thanks!

ok I can answer most of them for you

The new arm's do many things.
1. they correct the caster angle because the lower a arms can only be pull in so far.
2. because they are longer that stock arms, it corrects ball joint angles
3. also they provide a grease able serviceable ball joint. other wise, when the upper ball joint goes, you have to replace the who a arm

hydro- uses fluid damping disc where as nitro use a gas over liquid charge

quick disconnects, they allow you to disconnect the front sway bar so you can gain more articulation, but as far as i know, he doesn't have any ready due to the fact that the kk is different from the kj

E2 · **Posted:** Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:32 am

Diggerfreek wrote:

E2 wrote:

So the $793 only gets you the front kit. Yeah not sure who would only get the front kit. I guess it would lift the front up about 1" higher than the rear so you would have a slight california lift. Or you could have a spacer lift in the back, but doing that would only save you in parts $50.... Not worth the savings!

I do have some questions:

1. Why would one want the AL's A-arms? What do they do for you??

2. What is the difference between the Hydro and Nitro Gas shocks?? If towing does it matter?

3. What are the quick disconnects??

Thanks!

ok I can answer most of them for you

The new arm's do many things.
1. they correct the caster angle because the lower a arms can only be pull in so far.
2. because they are longer that stock arms, it corrects ball joint angles
3. also they provide a grease able serviceable ball joint. other wise, when the upper ball joint goes, you have to replace the who a arm

hydro- uses fluid damping disc where as nitro use a gas over liquid charge

quick disconnects, they allow you to disconnect the front sway bar so you can gain more articulation, but as far as i know, he doesn't have any ready due to the fact that the kk is different from the kj

1. Are the A-arms needed for a 2.5" lift?
2. Do A-arms give any more articulation?
3. What happens if the upper ball joint goes? while driving??
4. Do A-Arms allow for bigger tires? I want to fit 235/85R16 BFG or 265/75R16 Not sure which one is a better tire. They do fit with a 2" lift but a think the 235's might be better with articulation.
5. When would one disconnect the front sway bar? Is this something you would do while off-roading only or just at times while off-roading or what??
6. What are the advantages of Hydro (Fluid) versus Nitro (gas) shocks?

Thanks so much!

Diggerfreek · **Posted:** Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:53 am

E2 wrote:

Diggerfreek wrote:

E2 wrote:

So the $793 only gets you the front kit. Yeah not sure who would only get the front kit. I guess it would lift the front up about 1" higher than the rear so you would have a slight california lift. Or you could have a spacer lift in the back, but doing that would only save you in parts $50.... Not worth the savings!

I do have some questions:

1. Why would one want the AL's A-arms? What do they do for you??

2. What is the difference between the Hydro and Nitro Gas shocks?? If towing does it matter?

3. What are the quick disconnects??

Thanks!

ok I can answer most of them for you

The new arm's do many things.
1. they correct the caster angle because the lower a arms can only be pull in so far.
2. because they are longer that stock arms, it corrects ball joint angles
3. also they provide a grease able serviceable ball joint. other wise, when the upper ball joint goes, you have to replace the who a arm

hydro- uses fluid damping disc where as nitro use a gas over liquid charge

quick disconnects, they allow you to disconnect the front sway bar so you can gain more articulation, but as far as i know, he doesn't have any ready due to the fact that the kk is different from the kj

1. Are the A-arms needed for a 2.5" lift? I would say no, how ever most kj owners strongly recommend it. also come alignment time, it will make it a lot easier
2. Do A-arms give any more articulation? they could when you are at full drop. with the stock arms, you may come in to contact with the strut before you reach full drop
3. What happens if the upper ball joint goes? while driving??
4. Do A-Arms allow for bigger tires? I want to fit 235/85R16 BFG or 265/75R16 Not sure which one is a better tire. They do fit with a 2" lift but a think the 235's might be better with articulation.
5. When would one disconnect the front sway bar? Is this something you would do while off-roading only or just at times while off-roading or what??
6. What are the advantages of Hydro (Fluid) versus Nitro (gas) shocks?

Thanks so much!

1. I would say no, how ever most kj owners strongly recommend it. also come alignment time, it will make it a lot easier[/size]
2. They could when you are at full drop. with the stock arms, you may come in to contact with the strut before you reach full drop
3. Bad $h*T most likely ending in death if going at any rate of speed above 15 mph
4. they don't with tire size in most respects, but because they are slimmer in design, you can probably fit a wider tire in there
5. off roading
6. so far my hydro shocks feel weird to me. in the past i have always run gas shocks. what i can tell you is the hydro shocks are "softer while driving" where as the gas will be stiffer

unclejjg · **Posted:** Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:59 am

I guess there are some questions unanswered. $793.72 for kit....plus 195.95 for rear springs, plus 375.95 for optional A-arms. Grand total: $1,365.62.

Other options:
Nitro shocks to replace Hydro - $12
Quick Disconnect - $163.50

I've got a couple questions:
1.) Why wouldn't there be new front shocks available/included?
2.) What are the chances of getting Old Man Emu shocks to fit...any benefit?
3.) Would it be prudent to get the new brake lines? Someone said they are pretty tight on a 2" lift. Any suggestions, because that could add another 300 bones to the deal.
4.) Why wouldn't the other items on the 4" lift be necessary, such as: the adjustable track bar?

I am a novice, albeit a craving novice... please help.

SilverKK09 · **Posted:** Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:24 am

unclejjg wrote:

I guess there are some questions unanswered. $793.72 for kit....plus 195.95 for rear springs, plus 375.95 for optional A-arms. Grand total: $1,365.62.

Other options:
Nitro shocks to replace Hydro - $12
Quick Disconnect - $163.50

I've got a couple questions:
1.) Why wouldn't there be new front shocks available/included?
2.) What are the chances of getting Old Man Emu shocks to fit...any benefit?
3.) Would it be prudent to get the new brake lines? Someone said they are pretty tight on a 2" lift. Any suggestions, because that could add another 300 bones to the deal.
4.) Why wouldn't the other items on the 4" lift be necessary, such as: the adjustable track bar?

I am a novice, albeit a craving novice... please help.

Imagine:
you are a novice and I dont understand squat about whats being posted in here... I guess that makes me ignorant :roll:

Nah but seriously speaking I guess I wont consider a lift since I wont be doing serious offroading with my libby... just ocasional off roading

unclejjg · **Posted:** Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:36 am

SilverKK09,

It is important to lift to avoid extensive underbelly damage from frequent armadillo crossings......I hear their armored hides raise hell with even the skid plates. Perhaps you could write it off or get some kind of credit from your insurance company.

Mr Nick · **Posted:** Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:46 am

unclejjg wrote:

1.) Why wouldn't there be new front shocks available/included?

The front of the KK (and KJ) uses a strut instead of a shock, a new strut comes in the kit.

unclejjg · **Posted:** Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:22 am

Sorry for the confusion.....what is the difference between a strut and a shock?

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:01 pm

unclejjg wrote:

SilverKK09,

It is important to lift to avoid extensive underbelly damage from frequent armadillo crossings......I hear their armored hides raise hell with even the skid plates. Perhaps you could write it off or get some kind of credit from your insurance company.

we normally just squish the armadillo's - they're not even really tireproof - just messy.

Fronts are struts - rears are shocks
shocks are dampers that you add to the suspension to control movement -
struts are integral parts of the suspension i.e. you to have a strut to assemble the suspension

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