unclejjg, sorry to hear about your disappointment.

Time to be the first (?) to install that 2.5" JBA lift? And then some larger, and better gripping, tires?

why would you shut the esp off. it is supposed to help. as far as the liberty in the snow, it is great. i live in the snow belt south of you were we get way more snow and i have not had a problem getting through the 3 foot deep drifts in my driveway from the plow. you just need more speed:) tire tread and ground clearance is a big deal. as far as ground clearance goes, the difference between a stock tire and a 33 is only a couple of inches, all the lift in the world wont raise your diff. you can expect any vehicle to do only so much.

To be sure...there is no debate there, its just a matter of time. I get the feeling you and E2 are just waiting for me to install and report back that my wheels haven't fallen off before you guys step up and get one too!

All joking aside, I'm really stoked to slap that kit on my KK soon. It's not even funds that are holding me back...its just hooking up with a guy that will install it.

There's one more thing holding me back, I don't have my Liberty KK yet! I hope to have it by the end of this February.

I wish some of the companies who have made products for the Liberty KJ would realize there are Liberty KK owners now who are not constrained by funds and want to modify their KKs.

FYI a patriot with FDII cost as much as a liberty and the mileage is as bad. I considered this veichle before buying and on a patriot forum many people said if you want fdII buy a liberty : better offroad, real 2 spd T case , rear solid axle , bigger tires, more interior space, same mileage and price.

on your liberty you can add F&R arb air lockers, 4'' lift and at least 32'' tires and it will still be cheaper than a rubicon/H3 yet you will have more ground clerance

also you will go nowhere with the stock tires period. last year I couldnt climb a small hill in 4lo on 6'' snow. Get rid of them asap, they will kill you

from the short amount of time I used esp, I found that the brake limited slip kinda suck if your in 4hi because it puts too much load on the engine so so if one wheel slip and the other is not turning then esp apply brake on the spinning wheel so then no wheels turn even when you press the no esp button. In 4lo it does help but not much and you really have to step on the skinny pedal to make it work.

I agree wholeheartedly, but we are biased. It is comparable to pharmaceutical companies not making medicine for some little known disease that only 10,000 people world wide suffer from: sure, there may be 10 - 15 people who could/would pay $50,000 not to be eaten alive from the inside out from some weird bacteria....but the other 9,985 people would not be enough business to make back the $5 mil in R&D to develop the medicine.

Right now, us KK guys fall into that category....you, me, Digger, and a couple others are ready and raring to go, but as the reps from ARB said: we need at least 75 orders before we produce anything. Well, I say good luck on that for a while.

Unfortunately, , I understand. I hope if we keep drumming for products and rallying the ever-increasing pool of KKers that we'll (eventually) wind up with some KK-specific products we can spend our money on (other than one-off custom fabrication work which I'm already thinking I'll be paying for later this summer due to lacking products).

I'll tell you when it going to happen.....once the majority of KJ loyalist need to trade in their vehicle. Sure, we'll lose a few of them to 4-door Wranglers, but I think that we'll get a boost when they switch generations and pick up a new KK. Then the aftermarket will have to pay attention.

I'll tell you when it going to happen.....once the majority of KJ loyalist need to trade in their vehicle. Sure, we'll lose a few of them to 4-door Wranglers, but I think that we'll get a boost when they switch generations and pick up a new KK. Then the aftermarket will have to pay attention.