Fueling Issue

DirtyKK · **Posted:** Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:42 pm

Every time i fill my tank it overflows all over the side of my Jeep, never fails. I can usually stop it if i here it starting to fill my neck but dont catch it every time. Anyone else have this problem? im getting tired of cleaning my car every time i fill up.

Diggerfreek · **Posted:** Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:51 pm

You are the first KK I have heard of. Does it happen at different gas stations?

I have heard of some KJ owners that have the same issue. Some report that the problem was solved by switching gas stations while other have had the filler necks replaced...........

Mike08Liberty · **Posted:** Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:26 pm

Does it happen at every gas station you go to? If it's happening at different stations then it has to be some issue with the filler neck.

DirtyKK · **Posted:** Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:18 pm

forgot to add that it does it at every station I've ever been to

richd · **Posted:** Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:50 pm

Here is the answer to your fueling problem.Just to let you know,mine just started doing this also.Im waiting for next chance I get when I go to the dealer to take care of this.This effects Liberty from 05/09.

http://www.wkjeeps.com/misc/LX/TSB/TSB_1400109a.pdf

jewbilly · **Posted:** Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:14 pm

I have also had this problem with mine. It was not an issue for the first year or so, but lately it has been an issue. I have about 31k on the clock. Any fixes would greatly appreciated. :BANANA:

richd · **Posted:** Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:25 pm

jewbilly wrote:

I have also had this problem with mine. It was not an issue for the first year or so, but lately it has been an issue. I have about 31k on the clock. Any fixes would greatly appreciated. :BANANA:

If you read the post above yours,youll see your answer,cant make it more plain then that.Look at the TSB.

richd · **Posted:** Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:34 pm

SUBJECT:
Hard To Fill With Fuel Or Fuel Nozzle Shuts Off Repeatedly
MODELS:
2004 -2008 (CS) Pacifica
2009 (DS) Ram Truck (1500)
2007 - 2009 (DH) Ram Truck (1500/2500 Pick Up)
2004 - 2009 (DR) Ram Truck (1500 / 2500 Pick Up)
2005 - 2009 (HB) Durango
2007 - 2009 (HG) Aspen
2005 - 2009 (ND) Dakota
2009 (JC) Journey
2007 - 2009 (JK) Wrangler
2007 - 2009 (J1) Sebring (China CKD)
2007 - 2009 (JS) Sebring/Sebring Convertible/Avenger
2006 - 2009 (K1) Cherokee (CKD)
2007 - 2009 (KA) Nitro
2008 - 2009 (KK) Liberty
2008 - 2009 (KK) Cherokee (International Markets)
2005 - 2007 (KJ) Liberty
2005 - 2007 (KJ) Cherokee (International Markets)
2005 - 2009 (LE) 300C/300C Touring (International Markets)
2005 - 2009 (LX) 300/Magnum/Charger
2007 (L2) 300 (China)
2008 - 2009 (LC) Challenger
2004 - 2009 (PT) Chrysler PT
TSB-14-001-09 REV. A
GROUP: Fuel
DATE: September 1, 2009

Diggerfreek · **Posted:** Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:56 pm

Thanks for that.... I wonder if I have that in the KK tech section :?:

richd · **Posted:** Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:04 pm

Diggerfreek wrote:

Thanks for that.... I wonder if I have that in the KK tech section :?:

I got this from another site,but just saw this on your list.

bettsyboy · **Posted:** Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:25 pm

Diggerfreek wrote:

Thanks for that.... I wonder if I have that in the KK tech section :?:

maybe but if you do could you make it a little clearer then it is in this thread

the first post is about the tank overflowing and the nozzle not shutting off when re-fueling is it not?

the tsb is for a "Hard to fill" problem, meaning the nozzle keeps clicking off and won't fuel up properly.

also the tsb only applies to "international markets" so not North America

it is an interesting tsb but has nothing to do with DirtyKKs problem.

Scar0 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:55 pm

bettsyboy wrote:

Diggerfreek wrote:

Thanks for that.... I wonder if I have that in the KK tech section :?:

maybe but if you do could you make it a little clearer then it is in this thread

the first post is about the tank overflowing and the nozzle not shutting off when re-fueling is it not?

the tsb is for a "Hard to fill" problem, meaning the nozzle keeps clicking off and won't fuel up properly.

also the tsb only applies to "international markets" so not North America

it is an interesting tsb but has nothing to do with DirtyKKs problem.

There are several Nitro with this issue. It is not about the nozzle not shutting off. it is about a burp after it shuts off. Most of the time the dealer has replaced the fuel tank to fix this problem. This TSB actually directs the Tech to trouble shoot the problem, rather than just replacing the tank. I did not see any referenced to "International market" in the TSB. Did I miss something?

Diggerfreek · **Posted:** Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:58 pm

It should cover all markets

2006 - 2009 (K1) Cherokee (CKD)
2007 - 2009 (KA) Nitro
2008 - 2009 (KK) Liberty
2008 - 2009 (KK) Cherokee (International Markets)
2005 - 2007 (KJ) Liberty
2005 - 2007 (KJ) Cherokee (International Markets)

Scar0 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:18 pm

Diggerfreek wrote:

It should cover all markets

2006 - 2009 (K1) Cherokee (CKD)
2007 - 2009 (KA) Nitro
2008 - 2009 (KK) Liberty
2008 - 2009 (KK) Cherokee (International Markets)
2005 - 2007 (KJ) Liberty
2005 - 2007 (KJ) Cherokee (International Markets)

That is how I read it. I did not see international only.

bettsyboy · **Posted:** Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:45 am

Diggerfreek wrote:

It should cover all markets

2006 - 2009 (K1) Cherokee (CKD)
2007 - 2009 (KA) Nitro
2008 - 2009 (KK) Liberty
2008 - 2009 (KK) Cherokee (International Markets)
2005 - 2007 (KJ) Liberty
2005 - 2007 (KJ) Cherokee (International Markets)

my bad... i missed the KK Liberty line and only saw the KK Cherokee (Int markets) line, it is indeed for all markets

Scar0 wrote:

There are several Nitro with this issue. It is not about the nozzle not shutting off. it is about a burp after it shuts off.

There maybe another tsb but the way I read this one, it is about the nozzle shutting off and not about burping or spilling

Quote:

DISCUSSION:
Customer may report that the vehicle is hard to fill with fuel or that the fuel pump nozzle
shuts off repeatedly while trying to fill vehicle.

Diggerfreek · **Posted:** Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:18 am

It's ok bettsyboy, we still lov.... eh wait....

We still like you :SOMBRERO:

Scar0 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:04 am

Maybe I should have been a little clearer in the first part of my previous post, and separated it from the last 2 sentences. It was late and I was tired. My bad... :oops:

Regarding DirtyKK's issue in the fist post;

This is how it has been described by the Nitro owners that are having this issue as well.
"If the person is filling the tank and waits for the nozzle to click off, it burps gas down the side of the rig."
This has happened to several Nitro owners. The usual dealer fix is to replace the whole tank assembly.

Referring to the TSB;

If this TSB is followed, it could eliminate the other components involved in the fueling process for DirtyKK's issue as well.
Some of these other components (if defective), could cause air to become trapped in the tank (when filled) and cause the burp /spillage /overflow, at the end.
If there is another faulty part in the system, which is cheaper to fix, then why not go that route?
Eliminating the need to replace the hole tank assembly, unless absolutely necessary.

stripesace · **Joined:** Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:25 pm **Posts:** 54

i had this phenomenon at a gas station in Jackson, Ms and Morgan City, La... nowhere else though.

nightdrv · **Posted:** Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:07 pm

DirtyKK wrote:

Every time i fill my tank it overflows all over the side of my Jeep, never fails. I can usually stop it if i here it starting to fill my neck but dont catch it every time. Anyone else have this problem? im getting tired of cleaning my car every time i fill up.

Welcome to my club! Been happening since new.

Scar0 · **Posted:** Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:33 am

A little update. A KA owner just had their fuel tank replaced and they noted this on his invoice.
"Confirm Gas Overflow when filling, test vent hoses, good.
Found Rollover valve in tank NOT sealing. Replaced fuel tank and seal."
Apparently there is some kind of bulletin on this issue. If we could get a copy, it would be most useful to those trying to get this rectified.

If this is a Rollover valve issue, then there should be major concern if you are ever in an accident.
This changes the whole take on the fueling issue!
These fueling problems need to be reported! Go here and fill out the form. So NHTSA can track this problem.

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