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Author:  Tittiez [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:50 am ]
Post subject:  Gas spilling annoyance
Every time I fill up at the pump, instead of shutting off when the tank is full, it'll over flow a little bit and then shut off. :evil: Has anyone else had this problem?? Any solutions? Sorry 'bout the n00b question :SOMBRERO:
Author:  TAHOE [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas spilling annoyance
We have the same problem in our 05. There was a big discussion on it last summer, seems to be an annoyance and issue with quite a few. Maybe try to use search button and see if you can find it.
ours was any easy fix... we rarely ever fill it :jester: :mrgreen:
Author:  Boiler [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas spilling annoyance
Lots of people have had this problem with multiple years, and it gets discussed about once or more a month. I've heard of people replacing the fill tube or something, but I don't know if that works. What I do is this:

1) Drive until I get the fuel warning light or down to about 1/16th of a tank.
2) I fill it up to about 16 gallons rapidly.
3) Then I set it on the lowest auto setting or hold it even slower by hand. Then when it clicks off the additional flow is small enough that it doesn't overflow.
4) Never top off
5) Clean up fuel with paper towel or wash the jeep every 8th time when it still overflows

Also, mine seems to do it much more often from October to April, I'm not sure why. Maybe the vapors trigger the auto shut off earlier in warm weather.
Author:  DirtyKK [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas spilling annoyance
if your KK is still under warranty take it into the dealership. iirc there is a tsb or something and your gas tank will more then likely end up being replaced.
Author:  richd [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas spilling annoyance
There is a TSB for this.This is for 05-08 Liberty.Right now Im dealing with this problem on my 08 KK.There are test they have to do before they know what to replace.My test came out as a bad rollover valve on the fuel tank.Im getting my tank replaced next week.Here is the TSB:

http://www.wkjeeps.com/misc/LX/TSB/TSB_1400109a.pdf
Author:  Tittiez [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas spilling annoyance
Thanks for all the replies! I'll take it into the stealership tomorrow and have them do something about it. :P
Author:  SETexasLibby [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas spilling annoyance
My very first fill up it spews gas all over my pants. I was less than amused.
Author:  rickm [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas spilling annoyance
Boiler wrote:

Also, mine seems to do it much more often from October to April, I'm not sure why. Maybe the vapors trigger the auto shut off earlier in warm weather.



this sounds like the months they oxygenate your gasoline. probably whatever chemical they add for winter oxygenation causes it to act different.
Author:  richd [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas spilling annoyance
rickm wrote:
Boiler wrote:

Also, mine seems to do it much more often from October to April, I'm not sure why. Maybe the vapors trigger the auto shut off earlier in warm weather.



this sounds like the months they oxygenate your gasoline. probably whatever chemical they add for winter oxygenation causes it to act different.

NO,there is a TSB for this problem not oxygenation gas.
Author:  Diggerfreek [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas spilling annoyance
richd wrote:
rickm wrote:
Boiler wrote:

Also, mine seems to do it much more often from October to April, I'm not sure why. Maybe the vapors trigger the auto shut off earlier in warm weather.



this sounds like the months they oxygenate your gasoline. probably whatever chemical they add for winter oxygenation causes it to act different.

NO,there is a TSB for this problem not oxygenation gas.



Yeah, most for the time it is an issue with the EVAP system.
Author:  Scar0 [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas spilling annoyance
A bad rollover valve in the tank has been the most often found cause of this in the Nitro's.
A new tank has solved 99% of the issues reported.
Author:  richd [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas spilling annoyance
Scar0 wrote:
A bad rollover valve in the tank has been the most often found cause of this in the Nitro's.
A new tank has solved 99% of the issues reported.


Thats good to hear.Thats what they said mine was.I get my new tank wed,and was told there is a back order on the tanks,but my dealer had one,and I had them put a hold on the tank in my name.
Author:  Scar0 [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas spilling annoyance
Good news richd. Just remember not to "top off" the tank and it should last.
Author:  rickm [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas spilling annoyance
richd wrote:
rickm wrote:
Boiler wrote:

Also, mine seems to do it much more often from October to April, I'm not sure why. Maybe the vapors trigger the auto shut off earlier in warm weather.



this sounds like the months they oxygenate your gasoline. probably whatever chemical they add for winter oxygenation causes it to act different.

NO,there is a TSB for this problem not oxygenation gas.



I'm not saying there isn't a TSB. The original poster said it seems to do it much more often from October to April. I happened to see that he was in Indiana, and I happened to also research the fact that Indiana uses Oxygenated gas. Not sure about Indiana, but they used to oxygenate gas here in CA only during those months. I'm not sure when they do it now, or when they do it in Indiana, but a different blend of gas could certainly explain why the original posters gas tank seems to overfill during those months.
Author:  richd [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas spilling annoyance
All I can say if anybody that is having Hard To Fill With Fuel Or Fuel Nozzle Shuts Off Repeatedly and your under warranty,I suggest you take your KJ/KK to your dealer with the TSB and get the repair done.I had no trouble for the first 2 years,and know I have a problem everytime,this problem doesnt go away,thats why the TSB.Once again this is for 05/09 Liberty as well as other Chrysler vehicles.
Author:  rickm [ Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas spilling annoyance
if you read the original post, plus the other post that I replied to, those guys are complaining about their tank filling a little bit too full, in other words, it overflows a bit when the nozzle shuts off. One of the guys mentioned that his did that at times, but seemed to do it more during the fall/winter months, than the spring/summer months.

The TSB that everyone is talking about here is for a tank that's hard to fill, or the nozzle shuts off repeatedly before it's full.

are we talking about the same problem here?

I'm confused
Author:  richd [ Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas spilling annoyance
Yes,its called splash back.My 08 KK did both,A few times had splash back,and sometimes pump keeps clicking off.Like I said Any problem putting in fuel,this TSB is the answer.
Author:  richd [ Sat May 08, 2010 12:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas spilling annoyance
Here is a update on TSB 14-001-09 REV. A,Fueling problem.I had my new fuel tank installed last wednesday(4-28).Today was my first chance to check it out,and I had no problem putting in 17 gals. without shutting off,or splash back.So if you are having fueling problems,take her in and get your problem fixed.
Author:  Diggerfreek [ Sun May 09, 2010 11:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas spilling annoyance
Awesome!
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