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Author:  johnb [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Pulled J6
:BANANA:

:ROTFL:

:pepper:

:jester:

This is awesome. This jeep is the only vehicle I've ever owned with ESP and great-googly-moogly does it suck. We get a fair amount of washboard on the steeper sections of trail around my house and it's a constant fight. I've never had the patience to sit for 10 seconds every time I start up the hill. I'll probably put it back in when winter gets here, but until then, J6 can sit in the console. Hard to believe I've only done this now... :-)r

For those who have added the switch, do you actually use it? I can't imagine turning this on again any time soon, and I like that there's nothing to do besides drop the fuse back in when it's time for service... Has anyone been back to the shop with the switch installed?
Author:  Jeepin_it_real [ Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pulled J6
yes i use the switch, the most important thing about your vehicle is safety. your safety and the safety of others... the J6 fuse is abs and esp, both of which will help prevent accidents. Yeah it's annoying to pull the fuse everytime but it really is a needed thing. pull the j^ only when you go offroad or desire wheel spin ( which isnt an everyday necessity). Wiring the switch is easy and i reccomend it if you prefer not popping the hood and pulling the fuse everytime!
Author:  hrogi [ Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pulled J6
Was their a nice wire up with pictures of this???

I agree ABS and ESP are good to have active while interacting with other on the road..

Off Road.. umm not so sure...

But was the system smart enough for this..

Off Road. 1-2 wheel in the air and 2-3 wheel on round. You press the brake and accelerater.
With the 1-2 wheel in the air stop and the other 2-3 move?
So you can keep moving forward.

Just wonding... I saw a Hummer do this on TV...
Author:  johnb [ Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pulled J6
I can't say I'm too worried about not having ABS and ESP.... ABS maybe, but half the vehicles I'm around are full size trucks with no ESP anyway. My 08 truck doesn't have ESP. It does have ABS... But really, we drove around without these technologies for ages - we didn't all kill eachother before ESP, and we haven't stopped having accidents since it's introduction... And driving wheels that are under load when the corresponding wheel is not is a function of the dif - not the esp.

Besides, the most important thing isn't safety - it's burnouts. :goink:
Author:  johnb [ Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Pulled J6
Wanted to add - I have always noticed a bit of lag in the throttle which I thought was probably due to the electronic throttle... There may still be a bit of that going on, but overall the throttle response seems substantially improved.

This is awesome - I knew I didn't like the ESP, but I didn't realize how much until now. I'm at a loss for how to describe it.... Sort of like taking a pair of mittens off that you forgot you were wearing.
Author:  ridenby [ Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Pulled J6
johnb wrote:

Besides, the most important thing isn't safety - it's burnouts. :goink:

Absolutely.
Author:  08KKJeepGrn [ Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pulled J6
ok.. im stumpped.. WTH is J6 and show yourself what you've done after J6
Author:  johnb [ Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pulled J6
08KKJeepGrn wrote:
ok.. im stumpped.. WTH is J6 and show yourself what you've done after J6


J6 is the fuse that controls the ESP, ABS, parking brake sensor and probably a couple of other things.... Pulling it turns all that doo doo off completely, so no computer trying to interfere with your driving.
Author:  johnb [ Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Pulled J6
Had my first opportunity to see what the jeep *really* handles like... I was driving down loveland pass and pulled out to pass two cars travelling about 20mph... Passed the trailing car was no problem, but the lead car I guess decided he didn't want to be passed and jacked it up to 50 as I'm trying to pull past him. I love it when people do that. :furious: So as we crest a small hill, here comes a car in the other lane while I'm side-by-side with this jerk off. So I let off the gas to drop in behind him, but of course, so does he. :banghead: So I hit the brakes to really shut it down - one rear wheel locked up, got a little rump-shakin' action going... Then all four wheels wheels broke loose and did the twist a couple of times... Dropped into 3rd and straighted it out. Overall, not a bad performance from the KK.
Author:  At The Helm [ Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pulled J6
It would be advisable for you to cool down your driving with the abs/esp disabled. If you were to get into an accident and your jeep was inspected after seeing your skid marks your insurance company probably won't cover you.
Author:  johnb [ Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pulled J6
Atthehelm wrote:
It would be advisable for you to cool down your driving with the abs/esp disabled. If you were to get into an accident and your jeep was inspected after seeing your skid marks your insurance company probably won't cover you.


You're absolutely right... However, if I had the switch installed, they probably wouldn't cover me even if I had it engaged. In fact, with that kind of permanent mod, there's probably all kinds of stuff I wouldn't be covered for. At least this way, if I can still walk and get out of the jeep, I can put the fuse back.
Author:  NewJerseyKK [ Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pulled J6
I cant find any fuse labeled J6. Any help?
Author:  johnb [ Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pulled J6
Look at the diagram on the inside cover of the under-hood fuse box. It's the more forward of the two green 40's in the middle.
Author:  NewJerseyKK [ Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pulled J6
I had no idea that diagram was there.
I almost wish I didnt see this post though. Im going to need new tires VERY soon.
Author:  Scar0 [ Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Pulled J6
I use the switch all the time while off road. When I'm done playing I flip the switch off, shut the rig off, restart and I am on my way with all built-in safety features working.
I have the best of both worlds.
It is an easy install and when I go in for service it is easy to pop the hood remove the 2 wires from the fuse block(drop them down the side by the wheel well), pop in the fuse and plug. I've never had any questions about the plug.(Pic 3 in the above link).

So, once every 3-5 thousand miles (oil change time), I take the wires out and put them back.
It's a lot easier than taking the J6 out every time I want to play.
Then having to put it back in when I am done.
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