1.25" Spidertrax Spacers Installed

Gageraid · **Posted:** Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:36 am

I wouldn't mind hearing some opinions on these. I love 'em!

musclezmarinara · **Posted:** Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:36 am

Love em just like mine haha wait till my duratracs are mounted mwhahahahahhaah

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Roastbeef · **Joined:** Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:31 pm **Posts:** 199

Lookin good!

Gageraid · **Posted:** Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:29 pm

Thanks, guys. It's funny to look at the stock pictures and how much the wheels were originally pushed all the way in the wheel well. The Liberty definitely should have came like this.

Arctic_Libby · **Posted:** Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:26 pm

I have a few questions about those spidertrax. 1) is it 1.25" for one spacer? or do the two of them equal 1.25"? Also, any rubbing issues with these for a stock liberty? I'm going to be lifting my KK 2.5" and putting on 245/75/R16's and I know a little rubbing is ok but I'm a perfectionist and it'll bug the crap out of me if it rubs. And last question....I could be way over thinking this (and I'm a mechanic so I can't understand why I can't figure this out) but how do you torque the spacers down if the wheel is not on the ground?

Gageraid · **Posted:** Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:37 am

Arctic_Libby wrote:

I have a few questions about those spidertrax. 1) is it 1.25" for one spacer? or do the two of them equal 1.25"? Also, any rubbing issues with these for a stock liberty? I'm going to be lifting my KK 2.5" and putting on 245/75/R16's and I know a little rubbing is ok but I'm a perfectionist and it'll bug the crap out of me if it rubs. And last question....I could be way over thinking this (and I'm a mechanic so I can't understand why I can't figure this out) but how do you torque the spacers down if the wheel is not on the ground?

Correct, 1.25" each wheel, so a total of 2.50 on the front, and 2.50 on the back when all four are installed.

No rubbing issues at all on my stock height.

Tighten them up as much as you can when she's up in the air. You can have someone apply the brakes for you, then torque them when she's on the ground.

Arctic_Libby · **Posted:** Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:08 am

Gageraid wrote:

Arctic_Libby wrote:

I have a few questions about those spidertrax. 1) is it 1.25" for one spacer? or do the two of them equal 1.25"? Also, any rubbing issues with these for a stock liberty? I'm going to be lifting my KK 2.5" and putting on 245/75/R16's and I know a little rubbing is ok but I'm a perfectionist and it'll bug the crap out of me if it rubs. And last question....I could be way over thinking this (and I'm a mechanic so I can't understand why I can't figure this out) but how do you torque the spacers down if the wheel is not on the ground?

Correct, 1.25" each wheel, so a total of 2.50 on the front, and 2.50 on the back when all four are installed.

No rubbing issues at all on my stock height.

Tighten them up as much as you can when she's up in the air. You can have someone apply the brakes for you, then torque them when she's on the ground.

(My mechanic side really isn't showing right now but I've never dealt with spacers) how exactly do you torque them with it on the ground? Can you get to the bolts through the rim?

TurboGoKart · **Posted:** Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:09 am

Man, that looks great! Are there any ill effects from doing this? I really want to do this on my KK now too. I've HATED how pushed in the wheels are stock!

Gageraid · **Posted:** Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:43 pm

TurboGoKart wrote:

Man, that looks great! Are there any ill effects from doing this? I really want to do this on my KK now too. I've HATED how pushed in the wheels are stock!

Thank you, sir. I believe wheel spacers are a touchy subject for most. First of all, Spidertrax are hub-centric, so it really shouldn't create any more stress because it's just like having a wheel with less backspacing.

Some tire places will bash you for having them installed, or to try to blame them for various things, and I wouldn't be surprised if they turn your business away in an extreme case. My dealership wasn't very happy when they saw I had them installed.

The spacers were one of my first mods, because like you, couldn't stand how far in the wheels are. Now that my rims are black, it makes them look even better.

Gageraid · **Posted:** Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:46 pm

Arctic_Libby wrote:

Gageraid wrote:

Arctic_Libby wrote:

I have a few questions about those spidertrax. 1) is it 1.25" for one spacer? or do the two of them equal 1.25"? Also, any rubbing issues with these for a stock liberty? I'm going to be lifting my KK 2.5" and putting on 245/75/R16's and I know a little rubbing is ok but I'm a perfectionist and it'll bug the crap out of me if it rubs. And last question....I could be way over thinking this (and I'm a mechanic so I can't understand why I can't figure this out) but how do you torque the spacers down if the wheel is not on the ground?

Correct, 1.25" each wheel, so a total of 2.50 on the front, and 2.50 on the back when all four are installed.

No rubbing issues at all on my stock height.

Tighten them up as much as you can when she's up in the air. You can have someone apply the brakes for you, then torque them when she's on the ground.

(My mechanic side really isn't showing right now but I've never dealt with spacers) how exactly do you torque them with it on the ground? Can you get to the bolts through the rim?

No, the rims need to be OFF to tighten them. Disregard my last post about tightening them when she's back on the ground. I guess the best way is just having someone apply the brakes. The handbrake will work for the rear wheels.

Arctic_Libby · **Posted:** Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:55 pm

That makes more sense now. I felt pretty retarded for a while lol. Gageraid where do you go wheeling in jersey? I'm in pemberton lookin for some jeeps to go out with.

Gageraid · **Posted:** Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:57 pm

Haven't taken her anywhere yet. I used to live in the pine barrens, that's where a few of my friends used to go. Not sure how legal it was.

Arctic_Libby · **Posted:** Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:03 pm

I know Wharton state park has trails and the rules are "stay on the designated trails and your vehicle must be registered for public roads". I've been in there a few times. Park rangers will pull you over but just to make sure you're not being stupid.

I'm definitely going to be getting some of those spacers though. I like that wider stance look

Gageraid · **Posted:** Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:09 pm

Good luck!

TurboGoKart · **Posted:** Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:28 pm

Gageraid wrote:

TurboGoKart wrote:

Man, that looks great! Are there any ill effects from doing this? I really want to do this on my KK now too. I've HATED how pushed in the wheels are stock!

Thank you, sir. I believe wheel spacers are a touchy subject for most. First of all, Spidertrax are hub-centric, so it really shouldn't create any more stress because it's just like having a wheel with less backspacing.

Some tire places will bash you for having them installed, or to try to blame them for various things, and I wouldn't be surprised if they turn your business away in an extreme case. My dealership wasn't very happy when they saw I had them installed.

The spacers were one of my first mods, because like you, couldn't stand how far in the wheels are. Now that my rims are black, it makes them look even better.

Shoot, if they're hubcentric then it doesn't freakin matter! Let the haters hate! :SOMBRERO:

tommudd · **Posted:** Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:29 pm

Make sure you use the required Lock Tite and also torque to the recommended specs
They will work loose at times
Check them every 100-150 miles when you first install them
and yes some states they are illegal and if you have inspections they will not pass you

DREDnot · **Posted:** Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:27 pm

TurboGoKart wrote:

Are there any ill effects from doing this?

Besides prying your wheel bearings and ball joints apart, prematurely wearing your tires, increasing your turn radius, decreasing your obstacle clearance, and the possibility of failing and causing an accident your insurance company won't cover, they seem to be popular with the kids.

Can anyone justify the "wide stance" other than for looks?
Auto-cross? Drifting?

TurboGoKart · **Posted:** Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:38 pm

DREDnot wrote:

TurboGoKart wrote:

Are there any ill effects from doing this?

Besides prying your wheel bearings and ball joints apart, prematurely wearing your tires, increasing your turn radius, decreasing your obstacle clearance, and the possibility of failing and causing an accident your insurance company won't cover, they seem to be popular with the kids.

Can anyone justify the "wide stance" other than for looks?
Auto-cross? Drifting?

All that from scooting each wheel out 1.25"?? Really? I'm not trying to stick them out 12 feet lol. Can you explain why all of that happens?

DREDnot · **Posted:** Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:38 am

The further out from the center of the bearing you get, the more side load you get. The best for the bearing is to carry the weight of the car straight down through the bearing races. The more they get torqued to one side , the faster they offer up the ghost. If you put them 12 feet out, those same forces would pop the bearing apart with just the weight of the car. Same exact deal with the ball joint...levering forces grinding the joint sideways.

huntb · **Posted:** Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:00 am

Spend an extra couple hundred and get wheels with the backspacing that you like IMO

1.25" Spidertrax Spacers Installed

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