Hi all. Currently looking at the TomMudd 3.5" Econo lift package, to jack up a 2012 KK 4x4. My question is - for those who've had this lift for awhile, how is the suspension holding up? Any sagging issues, or are the HD front/MD rear springs doing their job and maintaining height?

I don't anticipate front end modifications other than that 'decorative' Mopar brush guard (mainly to serve as a fog beam holder). The Liberty is mainly for off-highway, fire trails, gravel roads, rutted ranches, and wetlands. I think the JBA adjust-a-strut is nice, but abit more $$$ than I have, or want to spend (if not necessary) - this Jeep is strictly for the weekend backcountry explorations (think New Mexico, Colorado, Arizona, and the Texas/Louisianna Gulf-coast), no rock-crawling (despite great opportunities).

I'm sure the 1.5" JBA lift would work also, but my previous XJ had a 3.5" lift, so I'm keen on duplicating that ride height (and possibly swapping in the tires, 31" BFG A/Ts).

Thanks

Well since the Ironman have only been available in the USA for less than a year for the KJ/KK crowd its kind of hard to say.
The kit I installed first has been on another KJ for some time now and last time he was here a few weeks ago its still right where we set it to when installed, so no sagging. Its his DD and takes it off road every now and again doing geo-caching etc .
So while it doesn't have the long time exposure and miles of the OMEs, so far so good.
Ride is on par with the OMEs as a matter of fact 501 ( who has the ones I ran) says he likes the ride of them better than the OMEs he ran previously.
Plus if I didn't think they were good I would of never sold them to one of my best friends,ya know!
Not sure if that helps any but hey its all I got!

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MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited

Thanks for the info. I've just come over to the KK side of Jeep, so I didn't realize Ironman was still new to this aftermarket.

- TxR

I have the Ironman shocks at all 4 corners and the ride is great. However, I'm pretty disappointed with the amount the rear shocks have rusted since installing the lift last November. It looks terrible. Also, the rear shocks are only about 1/2" longer than stock shocks so don't plan on using them with anything more than 1.5" of lift. Also kicking myself about that. The good news is that I emailed Marlon at JBA and he said that Ironman has a new 3.5" lift rear shock for the KK and its on the boat to the US as I type this and should be in by the end of the month. I'm going to purchase a set (hopefully these don't rust as bad) when they go up for sale.

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'08, OME HD/MD coils, Ironman shocks, Al's A-arms, Top plates, ATH front recovery, V-Tec Offroad wheels 17x8.5, Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac's 265/65R17, Jasper Offroad 12" Dual LED lightbar, Mopar hitch and harness, RRO roof rails and cross bars, Viper throttle body, K&N FIPK, Hypertech Max Energy

@HuntB - thanks for the info on the Ironman shocks and longer rear shock. I'm looking to lift in the Fall, so still have time to weigh my options. Maybe by then a few more people will chime in with their opinions on the Ironman and this lift system.

Nice Jeep.

- TxR

I would say stick with the "1.5 Econo lift" to save money, but if this rig is going to be offroad often and you have the budget, the next size up Econo lift should work great for ya.

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2008 Black Jeep Liberty Sport
4.7L throttle body
Old Man Emu lift
Sky Slider
Hypertech Max Energy
K&N CAI
Gibson stainless steel exhaust
Blacked out
ScanGauge2
BFG All Terrrain 225/75/16
JBA upper control arms

So I am about ready to commit to buying the TomMudd kit from Marlin. Does anyone know if the fronts are preassembled?

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2002 KJ 4X4, 3.7, 5 speed, offroad pkg, loaded, Moabs and Hankook A/Ts, Kenwood/ Alpine sound. Tommudd 3.5" econo lift and JBA A arms

Talk to Marlin ( JBA) he can preassemble everything for you but of course extra charge since you will need the upper and lower isolators etc .
ALSO
Since this discussion started IRONMAN has come out with longer rear shocks
they are made longer than OME 132Ls or the Bilsteins that everyone uses

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MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited

Thanks Tom. It was so long ago I did the Daystar lift, and upper stock A arms are shot, CVs are sloppy and thumping. Should drive like a new rig.

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2002 KJ 4X4, 3.7, 5 speed, offroad pkg, loaded, Moabs and Hankook A/Ts, Kenwood/ Alpine sound. Tommudd 3.5" econo lift and JBA A arms

I'm going to be ordering my kit right behind you. Good Luck!!

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2012 Cherokee Latitude Mineral Grey
3.5" Tommudd JBA Econolift
16x8 Fuel Revolver
265/70R16 Nitto Terra Grapplers
Westin Brushguard
Rigid Industries 10" & 40" LED Lightbar
RL Basket Rack