Heavily debating these 2 for the rear. I went up to 4wheelparts today to get a quote for everything and they are only $200 apart...seems about right for the truetrac , but seems excessive for the no slip.

$475 for the no slip
$677 for the DTT
Install, taxes, fluids, etc $427 for either one. I thought the install would be less for the no slip and about right for the truetrac.

Not sure of any other off road shops in the N Dallas area, wish I knew somebody local to help me put the no slip in and be done with it...

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2012 Jeep Liberty, OME lift with top plates and extra ISO in back, Bilstein 5100 Shocks, JBA UCAs, JK light bar mod on front bumper with PIAA 520 ATPs, ATtheHelms recovery system

Why when you have traction control?

The brake assist traction control is nowhere near the same as a locker or limited slip. I would suggest the truetrac.

Second that. I hear good things about the DTT and would probably spend extra on it.

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2010 KK 4WD BRILLIANT BLACK
Fox/King/Bilstein ATH BUMPERS ATH RACK GY DURATRACS

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You will like the DTT. Can't tell it is even there til you need it. It made a big difference on how the KJ will climb. Mine is on the front but I have wheeled with a Kj that had one in the rear and we were pretty even out on the trail.

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2003 KJ Renegade, 5 speed, frankenlifted,Al's a Arms 4.5,Moabs 245/75/16 BFG KM2's, custom rock rails, full Mopar skids, Hella ff220 lights,Hd cooling,Front DTT,Riddler diff cover,Rola safari rack,Cobra 29 peaked & tuned.

Pastafari Alum, Pink shovel recipient

Someday soon, I plan to regear. When I do, trutracs are going into both axles. I was advised by the gear guy at 4WP to use a limited slip in the rear because the Detroit locker I wanted would cause problems while towing.
Powertrax is a pretty easy instal it that's the way you want to go. I done know why they want to charge so much, the carrier doesn't have to come out and there's no real setup. It just replaces the spider gears. The powertrax is a lunchbox locker.

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2010 KK Deep Water Blue,OME Liftplus 1",JBA 5.5 UCA ,Dynaflow cat back exhaust, Weathertech VV & mats,Mopar skids,Atthehelm front bumper, Smittybilt XRC 10, Rigid LED's,RL Skink Supersliders,Gecko Safari Basket Detroit Truetrac rear, E-Locker front, G2, Dana 4.10's

I run true trac's front and rear an love them...

I HAD an aussie locker for a very short time (long story) but what I will tell you is stay away from a lunch box locker as you get what you pay for.

If you go with the powertrax's unit, you can do it in your drive way for less then 50 bucks and an afternoon of alone time with the jeep. Honestly, I think they are charging you 300 to much for labor in the powertrax's unit. The install for the DTT sounds right inline for a full carrier replacement.

Oh and do a little searching on ebay or the like for the DTT... Here is the place I got my DTT from for 575:


https://www.drivetrainamerica.com/p-35- ... dodge.aspx

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2008 KK Liberty Sport NIGHT OPS EDITION + GILLS
OEM & Custom Skids - Factory Tow Package - Rock Lizard Skink Super Sliders
Prototype JBA 4 Inch Lift - JBA UCA's - Flowmaster Super 44 OR - Whacked Resonator
Jet Stage 2 - RL Gecko Basket Rack - Custom Winch Bumper - Recon 10.5K Winch

I got the trutracs installed along with 4.10 gears, what a difference. I felt it as soon as I started driving. WAY more power and the traction was incredible. I've had it Offroad and can honestly say it handles like a different Jeep. I was climbing hills and going through mud that I couldn't get through with the factory traction control. There are a couple circumstances where it's possible for a wheel to spin and the opposite one to sit still but the traction control takes care of that very well, like they were made to go together. I highly recommend a pair of trutracs and while they're in there regear. You'll have the same labor charge and you'll need a master rebuild kit anyway, may as well get the last couple pieces and put the gears in.

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2010 KK Deep Water Blue,OME Liftplus 1",JBA 5.5 UCA ,Dynaflow cat back exhaust, Weathertech VV & mats,Mopar skids,Atthehelm front bumper, Smittybilt XRC 10, Rigid LED's,RL Skink Supersliders,Gecko Safari Basket Detroit Truetrac rear, E-Locker front, G2, Dana 4.10's

Aside from the DTT and sorry if im derailing a bit what's everyone's thoughts on ARB lockers?

I know they are pricey but other than that what are some pros and cons between say a DTT and ARB or are they even comparable?

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2008 Black Liberty Sport 4X4 - Red and Black wheels and trim - Painted headlight bezels - Magnaflow Exhaust.

The ARB is a true selectable locker,open when unlocked,flip 2 switches and it's now a full on spool.Both tires on that axle will turn at the same speed no matter what(or till something breaks which will not be the ARB in 99.99% of all cases).

Love my F/R ARB's.

ARB's are probably the best locker available. Detroit trutracs are probably the best limited slip available. Both good but very different.
Here's a demonstration of how a trutrac works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTXvH3T8 ... ata_player

The arb doesn't slip unless it's disengaged, then It's an open diff.

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2010 KK Deep Water Blue,OME Liftplus 1",JBA 5.5 UCA ,Dynaflow cat back exhaust, Weathertech VV & mats,Mopar skids,Atthehelm front bumper, Smittybilt XRC 10, Rigid LED's,RL Skink Supersliders,Gecko Safari Basket Detroit Truetrac rear, E-Locker front, G2, Dana 4.10's

Everytime I come here, I get so engrossed by all the mods everyone has done to improve your rig, I think my wife would rather I BLOCK the site. So, the last off roading mod I was thinking was giving my KK some better traction. I was looking at Jeep Liberty Limited Slip DifferentialTrac-Loks at the rockyroad website. But I see I may have a different option. Then someone had to go and mention the "regear" and got me to wondering if that's another mod (and final). So, I'm going to show my ignorance. I have the stock KK sport. What gearing should I go to? What improvements will it do for me (better MPG for example) and is this done in both front/rear diffs. I did plan on putting some type of LSD's in the front and back but kinda wonder now if it's really needed and will it change the way it drives. 80% of the driving is on paved roads. I've not been off road since I got the popping in the front end corrected after the OME lift upgrade from jeepin-by-al. Thanks for making me want to spend more money on my jeep.

Oh, and did I mention I was looking at moving up to 17's next tire change out? Think it's time to bump it up now that I have some fender clearance. I know, that's 3 mods left but I don't count the tire/wheel upgrade as a mod. Just taking advantage of all that room I have now.

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2009 Liberty Sport (black)
1.5 OME lift from JBA
Full Skids
JCR Offroad-Stage 2 Rock Sliders
Weathertech mats
Weathertech wind guards
Mopar bug shield/Roof rails/crossmembers
Hankook dynapro A/T 255/65 16's
Hidden Hitch w/3ball-1hook rcvr (knee cap killer)

stay away from Rocky Road first
second yes you have to regear the front and rear both
with 245-75-16s 4.10s work great
why are you going to 17s Less good tires in that size

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MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited

Stay away from RRO like Tom stated.Just get DTT front and rear and you will be more then happy.

1. I agree about RRO.. Was just looking at the site/hardware. I would buy from somewhere else. I'm not too impressed about JBA either but that's another story.
2. I agree about the tires. Was just doing some side by sides at discount tires webpage and see that I can go to 255/70 16's and gain an inch in height without having to buy new rims. So, that might be the way to go but the Hankook Dynapro's I'm running now are wearing TOO good so they won't be replaced in the next year or so. I'm running 255/65's right now

Thanks for the advice.

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2009 Liberty Sport (black)
1.5 OME lift from JBA
Full Skids
JCR Offroad-Stage 2 Rock Sliders
Weathertech mats
Weathertech wind guards
Mopar bug shield/Roof rails/crossmembers
Hankook dynapro A/T 255/65 16's
Hidden Hitch w/3ball-1hook rcvr (knee cap killer)